Here's something I should of put in the OP btw, it's a great watch, and may surprise you to hear it comes from a staunch Marxist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EYxqocgk9g>>4097>I don't believe this is true. I've read a great deal that claims the opposite. Rather than both of us cite conflicting sources, I'll primarily argue against your next point.
Maybe it depends on the country - in the UK I'm fairly sure it's agreed more or less they do.
>but aren't those corporations meant to benefit the area with the prosperity they supposedly bring?
This moves onto a very different topic, to keep the thread on topic for now I wont give my full analysis but in short no, this isnt really how it ends up working. If you really want my view here let me know.
>Corporations also hire these illegal immigrants, which exacerbates the issue.
Yes exactly. This is the point I was making in the next part of the OP - it's the fact there's an incentive to employ them in the first place that is the problem, and the root of many others in society.
>It doesn't seem that a point is being made here.
It set up the argument for the next bit, sorry if that wasnt very clear.
>Those lowering the value of society, such as illegal immigrants, should be removed.
You see you're missing the point here. They are only lowering the value of society, much like a lot of black communities for example, because their material and economic conditions are so poor. If we alleviated these problems, the rest would sort its self out, as at the end of the day people's behavior are molded by their material conditions. We very much have the resources to give everyone not only in say the US but the whole whole a decent standard of living, but our current economic system does not accommodate this.
>Syndicalism is a nice idea.
Personally I'm more of a Socialist than a Syndicalist - Syndicalism tends to be more anarchistic, and I consider anarchists extremely utopian, in the philosophical sense.
>I prefer an idea that can be perhaps poorly summed as "The most capable in a society should rule."
I have a question then, how do you determine who is the most capable of something? Why not construct a system in which thoes most 'capable' naturally rise to important positions without anything being needed to prop them up, like Socialism? >>4098>Namely that through the fact that these people are residing in that country illegally, they are more attractive employees
Yea I addressed this briefly in my OP but you've definitely expanded on it a lot more. Like I said though, this is a problem of the way our system is structured in the first place. There shouldn't be an incentive to keep people as poor as possible.
>As to the culture thing, I again think it's an entirely legitimate desire not wanting to accept people in our societies who show no signs of understanding
I agree, I think the video I put at the top of this post is very relevant to what you were saying here. Basically, you don't need to be full on multicultural 'immigrants can do no wrong' to actually have immigrants and refugees in your country. Separation can be a good thing.