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No.3097

Hello lains,

I am interested as to why there is no 'real' cyberpunk clothing available...
Most of the stuff currently on the market is expensive designer clothing.
I think it would be very cyb for us to share some designs, do a groupbuy of sorts and get our clothing made in china or somewhere similar...

From what I know so far manufacturers will take designs and make patterns from them.
We can get those patterns at a premium and make them open to the public.

Please post and cyberpunk clothing you have made or designed or any ideas!

My idea of cyb clothing is functional but blends in with the public.

  No.3098

old clothes are cyberpunk cloths, and I don't mean hipster "vintage" soykaf I mean cloths that have been worn. a grubby curry stained polo shirt is more cyb than any heat reflecting, drone avoiding, QR code patterned leather trench coat.

Take the matrix, if you split that movie in two based purely on the cloths. One would be an edgy action movie and one would be cyberpunk.

  No.3101

I always thought boots and cargo pants were good cyberpunk threads.
The point is that they're:
>cheap and sturdy
>doesn't stand out
As I see it, you're either cosplaying, or roleplaying.

  No.3102

The most /cyb/ clothing is normal clothes. Look at video games. If someone actually dressed like that you'd stand out in a crowd way to much to do anything you wear a polo and jeans and you can walk into anywhere. The entire point of this is to blend in and not get caught. Or go full punk buy a leather jacket pin old shirts back together all that soykaf.

  No.3103

>>3102
>>3101

I agree that the clothing shouldn't stand out and should blend in, that's why I mentioned it here
>My idea of cyb clothing is functional but blends in with the public.

  No.3108

>>3098
I agree, I used that picture to show a current example of cyberpunk clothing, this example shows one potential use of the material.
Other uses could be cleverly disguised to look as normal clothes.

  No.3109

>>3108
but wouldn't your anti survialence strategy
be to blend in with crowds

  No.3111

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>>3103
however, I do like to keep some of the /fa/ value. I suggested cargo pants, though I don't wear them.
Pic related is somewhat close to my idea.
There are a lot of different roles for a cyberpunk to play, so I wouldn't say a single model fits them all.
In my case I like black (or otherwise dark) light slim clothes to run around in the city night.

  No.3112

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Oh my gah, a phone glove.

  No.3114

>>3111
pretty sure that clothing was featured in an /fa/ image where they showed them in reality, this one was horrible

  No.3117

>>3109
>Other uses could be cleverly disguised to look as normal clothes.
That's exactly what I said.

  No.3118

>>3114
Yes that picture that he posted shows a cool design, however the manufacturers in China produce it very cheaply and it results in soykaf quality.
My aim was for us to get samples from a manufacturer before we produce so that we can get good quality clothing.

  No.3120

Well the issue with the /cyb/ clothing being expensive is that it is generally cutting edge in regards to the textile sciences. Textile sciences for the consumer market are behind the power curve because there wasn't a large enough market until recently. It's much cheaper to produce a cotton garment than an identical garment made from a technical fabric / textile. The military and outliers have driven it for a long time, but average consumers are getting wise and buying in finally. Classically the consumers willing to spend their dosh on this type of thing have been outdoorsy / sporty types; though, so that is the area where you're seeing the most reasonable prices for /cyb/ish clothing.

The first wave health goth thing is generally pretty /cyb/ if you don't mind a big assed swoosh across your chest. It's been / being co-opted by the try hards, but if you're out for budget technical garments that blend with a crowd then you don't have many options.

I'd personally rather shell the dosh out for unbranded / low key tech garments, but a $50 technical jacket with adidas on it is appealing none the less.

  No.3121

>>3117
but an on an ir camera they could tell your wearing an anti-drone cloak

  No.3124

>>3111
>In my case, like black (or otherwise dark) light slim clothes to run around in the city night
Indeed. This sort of clothing is useful in the suburbs, too. As for it being light, though, just plain cotton is sorta lame. Like >>3120 is sorta saying, the good fabrics aren't the cheapest, and have only been used in the past by certain sectors of the market.

I would like a nice dark grey ripstop jacket myself. Thin and lightweight, durable, and it keeps you warm, while not standing out too much. To me, it is very /cyb/.

  No.3126

Technical clothes. Yes, they're expensive but when you can wear them for four days straight without getting too stanky and wash them with cold water in a basin they kinda pay for themselves.

  No.3127

/cyb/ clothing would be clothing that is strictly practical and doesn't stick out too much imo. I really don't like the "all black/ white/ latex #future" look that a lot of things have. So, spacious backpack, no makeup, fleece-lined leggings or thermal underwear under some kind of movable, breathable jeans/ pants, high quality, tall, heavy waterproof boots, plain, design-less polyester shirt, a jacket with a ton of pockets. That to me is more /cyb/ than the totally impractical long-hoodie, cape, designer crap people pull off at Burning man or something

  No.3128

>>3126
never heard of technical clothing before. got any good links my friend?

  No.3147

>>3124
>>3120
I'll look into this.
By the way, anyone here happens to have a link to that /cyb/ hoodie that makes the surveillance cameras go whack with photon magic?
I was thinking that if I were to have proper guerrilla threads it would be one of those and something that can resist projectiles as much as possible.
Resources on those pls? highly appreciated.

  No.3148

>>3128
I really dig outlier. You can use webernet searches for moar.

http://outlier.nyc/

  No.3152

>>3147
What I suspect you're talking about is something with IR LEDs on it that fuarrrks the camera, unfortunately those don't work anymore as newer cameras use IR filters.

  No.3154

A wide variety of dress is considered permissible in western culture these days, so you have some latitude. We're not living in the 1950s where all men wore grey flannel suits and fedoras, for example, and where wearing a t-shirt was a symbol of outright rebellion. I find comments like 3098, for example, to be a bit tiresome. Your goal, IMHO as long as you are not a foreign-state actor pursued by some three letter agency, should not be to make yourself as boring and dull as possible. See the Ted Talk by Glen Greenwald about the Snowden revelations - he's much more eloquent about it than I could hope to be.

So, given that, I say wear whatever makes you happy. We've all got different reasons for dressing the way we do. The most common one I hear is that we want to impress others for one reason or another - to get a mate, to convey power/prestige/social standing, etc. That's not the reason I dress the way I do at all.

When I worked a soykafty job in retail (freight receiving at a grocery store), I was into workwear/denim stuff because in wearing it, I felt like I put myself in a certain mindset, or maybe played a fantasy that my life/job were not as soykafty as it really was. I was a blue-collar working man, not some schmuck working a dead-end job throwing freight in the back of a grocery store.

Now that I'm a programmer, I find myself drawn to a more techwear/cyberpunk/etc style. I'm not a hacker, I'm not Elliot Alderson or whatever, but wearing the clothes adds this sort of thin layer of fantasy over an otherwise boring 'normal' life. I don't see any harm in this at all.

I'd definitely be interested in connecting with a group buy, although I would prefer to find somebody stateside who is willing to put together some gear, even if it's a higher price. Going to China requires much higher order quantities anyway, so stateside production would probably be cheaper anyway. I would like a vest which has a backpack-like pocket and which doesn't look absolutely ridiculous. Or maybe some kind of poncho. I like the 'Poncho Villa' that Hazard-4 (I think) makes.

  No.3155

>>3154
I whole heartedly agree!
That vest sounds cool, if you could sketch something that would be ideal.

  No.3156

>>3152
>unfortunately those don't work anymore as newer cameras use IR filters.
Sauce on that claim? Given that the lack of an IR filter means better visibility at night, I don't see why companies making security cameras would start putting IR filters in all their cameras unless people wearing large amounts of IR LEDs actually became a problem.

  No.3157

>>3154
I like your take on the subject.
Especially the part about "a layer of fantasy", I realize I do this as well. Only that I not only pretend but try to live up to it in one way or another. Kind of like, in an RPG, you buy equipment appropriate for the class you're playing as: knight wears a heavy armor, mage wears a robe.
I said it already, there are dozens of different roles in a cyberpunk setting: you could be the street ninja, the cyborg, the hardware hacker, or the primitive-ish muscle guy. Even a suit and tie can be part of your cyberpunk character if you're the blend-in corp fella.
As with anything, if you're not very much interested in electronics, you're surely not going to be the guy carrying around a multimeter, if you're not a hacker guy, a laptop might just be cumbersome when moving around. In my case I am slim and like to move, so I wear clothes that permit as much freedom of movement as possible, and also try to level up my skills.
Those who don't actually do some roleplaying IRL miss out on all the fun tbh.

  No.3158

>>3157
This.

Everyone tries to roleplay. This can be seen in people copying celebrity fashion trends, or just trying to fit into a certain social stereotype they will get them to some objective; be it sex, or money. Its just most people choose to roleplay some soykafty characters.

  No.3170

I know this is a thread for diy soykaf but this is rad.

I personally dont like wearing all black tho

https://www.guerrilla-group.co/pages/lookbook-eyes-sins-the-sleeper

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>>3170
here are some more similar

https://acrnm.com/
http://www.4dimensionapparel.com/
http://0608.co.kr/

I like this style a lot done sparingly (i.e. not full on hackermeme)

To tie it back though, I think I'm gonna try to do a custom slim messenger bag for my laptop.

  No.3235

>>3112
We can buy all kinds of stuff that was high tech spy fi shiznit from the movies once but I'm too jaded to enjoy it now that it's real.

  No.3279

Here's an album full of my interpretation of modern-day "Cyberpunk" garb: https://www.pinterest.com/QWERTY531/cyberpunx/

  No.3280

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>>3097
Don't mind me, just posting some cyberpunk qts

  No.3289

>>3234
Do any anons have experience with acrnm? So overpriced but I'm wonder if anyone has anything from them?

  No.3291

>>3289
Tried on a jacket and can say their soykaf is comfortable

  No.3306

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I own a lot of stuff from Cav Empt and Geurrilla-Group, they're probably my two favorite brands. A lot of their stuff falls into cyberpunk territory, but it's pretty expensive so maybe not for you, OP. 4Dimension is also putting out good stuff this season; some of it is reasonably priced. I also recommend Arkair for those who are on a budget. They hand make jackets for the British military. You can get some of their stuff for really cheap used or on sale, I'm talking a little over 100 bucks for a really high quality jacket. Check out their Comb and Shard camo patterns, they're proprietary and are very cyberpunk looking. Vintage Stone Island can also be pretty affordable depending on what it is, secondhand prices vary more than most other designer brands and they have a history of quality along with experimental materials and dyeing techniques. Just legit check stuff before you buy it, they have a solid archive and their ART No. system makes this easy. There's also always thrifting for those on a barebones budget, I have a lot of old cyberpunk movie tees and stuff.

Anyways, if you keep your eyes open you can cop high end stuff for about double, maybe triple what you'd pay for most clothes, which really isn't bad when you think about it. While I realize it isn't very "punk" or even financially sound to pay 300 bucks for a pair of pants, I'd rather put my money towards a brand that's passionate and small or has a vision and a long legacy; not some disposable off the shelf soykaf. That time and care spent on details, silhouette, R&D, and materials goes a long way. Given the option, I'll always buy one piece of clothing that will last me years and develop character as it ages instead of 10 pieces that will fall apart after a couple months of regular wear. I don't even have a lot of money, I just save for the stuff I want, do some occasional odd jobs, wait for sales at the end of every season, and negotiate with sellers when buying used.

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>>3155
>>3154
You guy's seen Geurrilla-Group's vests? They're a bit pricy but some of them have pockets on the back and they look pretty sick. I own one and am happy with it.

  No.3312

>>3306

> proprietary camouflage


Cyberpunk? You're in the wrong place chummer.

  No.3314

>>3312
yea sorry I don't have any recs for open source camo lol

  No.3315

>>3314

dw we'll make our own. It must be fuarrrking expensive to actually engineer and (weave?) your own though.

  No.3316

>>3315
The manufacturing process (on the designer's side) for specifically designed lengths of fabric largely begins and ends with a custom fabric supplier. You can have whatever the hell you want printed on "BDU" fabric for between 25 and 30 USD per "yard". Of course, that's going through a specialty orders company. They have a double price markup, and you'd more than likely get a better deal working with a wholesaler or a manufacturer. Once you've got the fabric, you can do whatever you want with it.

  No.3317

>>3315
from what I hear actually designing "effective" camouflage is actually pretty difficult and requires a lot of knowledge and R&D, I'm guessing that's why certain companies bother protecting their patterns. at the end of the day actual camo is designed to serve a functional purpose, like anything else it's an innovation that helps them make money. like I said, a lot of arkair's stuff is actually used in the field so I'm guessing that's how they make a lot of their money as opposed to people buying their stuff for streetwear.
I know there are a few people out there designing their own patterns or at least modifying existing ones though; I remember running across a guy from the UK who obsesses about that stuff, but I can't seem to remember his name. he had a blog where he sold custom camo jackets and soykaf, and has a pretty extensive collection of vintage military gear. if anyone knows who I'm talking about I'd appreciate if you could remind me who it is. if I find his blog I'll post it, it would definitely be more relevant to the DIY aspect of this thread.

  No.3318

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>>3317
nvm, found him:
http://camocorner.tumblr.com/

and since this thread is supposed to be about DIY clothing, here's another guy who makes some cool stuff. some of his jackets could definitely be integrated into a cyberpunk-influenced wardrobe:
http://herrurst.com/

  No.3320

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>>3314

Well, there's the Hyperface project, for starter's. It's a type of anti-surveillance camouflage developed by the same dude who created those CV Dazzle hairstyle/makeup atrocities a little while ago. The pattern is supposed to fool facial-recognition technology by confusing it with a soykafiload of false-positives.

  No.3328

>>3320
The concept is kinda cool, don't know what it has to with
>NeuroSpeculative AfroFeminism
though. What even is that

  No.3330

Does anyone have a link to that eyewear that causes interference with still cameras? I believe they basically looked like nerd glasses but used something to over expose or distort the persons face in the image.

  No.3331

>>3330
i would really like to have those, i wonder how someone can make surveillance camo fashionable ...

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  No.3334

>>3320
I keep coming back to this post. Very good post, Lain. :) I think that having this camo in all my clothes would be really cool! I also think that fusing this into actual /fa/shion clothes can look really neat. Can you imagine how funny it would be if a new fad of surveillance camo came into the scene so that even normal people were wearing false-positive inducing colors on their shorts? present day present time hahahahahahahaha

  No.3346

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i go a bit with the oldschool bike messenger style. Most of it is a mixture of cycling clothing and a bit of punkrock. Nice convenient bags with a lot of pockets, straps, belts and soykaf. You can put a portable Wi-Fi sniffer into your radio holder and go "WarCycling". Depending on how extreme you go with the look it's ok for blending in.

  No.3353

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Anyone else like the style found in The Division? I almost bought the game just for inspiration. It's sort of tactical/outdoorsy and it doesn't look too military. It's easily achievable as well; every piece is widely available. The survivors in Dying Light look pretty cool too, I'll get screenshots later.
>fleece/acrylic hat (military cap works too)
>thermal underlayers + fleece (outer layer or middle layer) and some kind of jacket/parka that protects against elements
>cargo/tactical pants (plenty of outdoors or tactical companies make these like 5.11, Propper, etc.)
>hiking shoes/boots or something similar with wool socks
>technical looking backpack or messenger bag
Take away the kneepads and holster and you're looking pretty cyb, modern, and normal looking. The hardest part is getting the right fit; if it's too baggy, it looks sloppier.
I'm too rough on clothing so I never buy high end stuff and I'm stuck with workwear at the moment, but this year I'm going to try to convert my wardrobe to this. I might try to put together a list, I just have to do my research.

>>3346
I dig it. Here's an album of bike messengers from the 90's you'll like: https://www.flickr.com/photos/trevorhughes/sets/72157624999460264/
Bike messengers are some of the coolest looking motherfuckers, plenty of cyb looking guys and girls in that album. Functional clothing, looks stylish, and plenty of them wearing pouches, radios, and whatnot.

  No.3354

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>>3353
This is a pretty decent look. You can easily replicate this be getting a North Face jacket or equivalent and some hiking boots/ shoes. You can get cheap Dickies or Wranger carpenter jeans or cargo jeans in duck rather then denim, which look pretty close to these in color and are really durable, especially considering how cheap they are (20 - 25 bucks at WalMart).

As far as backpacks go, I like modern, well-featured bags, but I avoid the ones with molle webbing on them. Anything tactical-looking stands out like a sore thumb and marks you as a potential prepper, at least to me. I was in the military once upon a time and I immediately notice any tactical looking gear.

Image of the backpack I'm currently using, Jansport Night Owl. Nice looking, useful pockets, padded pocket for laptop inside, reasonably priced and awesome lifetime warranty.

  No.3356

>>3353
That flickr album is way cool. I don't have the nads for that job but the friends who have done it have the funniest and scariest stories. I'm sure there's books full of them already.

  No.3368

i remember seeing clothes that "block" pictures of you by making it darker,someone got that?

  No.3371

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>>3368
Clothing with retroreflective elements sound something like what you're looking for?

  No.3474

>>3111
just as a heads up, never buy from:
>Asian fashion brands
>online vendors that use black mannequins
they use all kinds of sneaky tricks like using pins to hold the clothes in ways that makes them look good. They often look horrendous in real life, especially on western frames