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No.1 [Reply]

Libraries and book recommendations thread

http://clockwise3rldkgu.onion/index.php - Clockwise
http://xfmro77i3lixucja.onion/ - Imperial Library of Trantor
http://c3jemx2ube5v5zpg.onion/ - Hidden book club (currently down, but bookmark it because it will likely be back soon)

If you haven't read the foundation series by Isaac Asimov yet drop everything and do that right now.
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oh my sweet summer child
wasn't just lit, the entire site flatlined

OP, these are excellent, excellent links, thanks for sharing

I made a what are you reading thread shortly before the recreation of /lit/, which i think is proximal to this thread but towards a different end

i have recently discovered ted chiang - who's Story of Your Life was adapted into Arrival - and am crushing so hard right now. his writing itself is absolutely excellent, and his themes, while not necessarily cyberpunk, are super aligned with many explored in SEL.
reading through his collection Stories of Your Life and Others, which has the aforementioned titular story. Well worth checking out.



Ongoing project of mine that you all might be interested in.

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No.11 [Reply]

Anybody on here write? Care to share anything you've written?
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An essay I've begun to write (references come with attached research when I publish officially).


I liked this piece. While being short it also allows for the reader to think alot about the main characters background and what led them to this scene and conclusion.

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No.114 [Reply]

This topic lead to a bit of discussion on other websites when I started it so might as well talk about it here too.

How do you best appreciate a book? Do you read it in a superficial way and only look at the surface (story, setting) or do you go deeper to find more?
Most books released nowadays barely have any deeper meaning, they mostly repeat "criticism" that was mentioned in tons of other books (for example like most YA or dystopia books criticise our current society)

Is it correct to analyze poems and prose or should they be enjoyed aesthetically and emotionally?

I like to think of this movie clip of The Dead Poets Society
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I also prefer classics over whats current but I can't help but feel pretentious saying that out loud. Truth be told I know very little about contemporary literature and perhaps if I made an effort to learn I'd be able to find some enjoyable reads.

Of course I try to appreciate stories at a deeper level. With poetry my chief pleasure is an appreciation for the aesthetics and emotional appeal but if the poet is writing in a context I am particularly interested in I try my best to analyze it.


>Is it correct to analyze poems and prose or should they be enjoyed aesthetically and emotionally?
I don't think this is an either/or situation. Great literature sees aesthetic and intellectual enjoyment come together to create a whole package that is best served by a combined approach. Consider the poetry of Wallace Stevens, for example. He's a master of rhythm and musicality, and the beauty of his words easily stands on its own. However, his poems are also imbued with cutting insight regarding the nature of being and perception, and a student of his would be sorely missing out if they were to ignore this aspect of his work.

That said, I would much rather read something "purely" aesthetic than "purely" intellectual. Beauty is the soul of art, and it is something far bigger and more complex than we will ever understand. Intellect is a human device, and it can be satisfied elsewhere.

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No.122 [Reply]

Character development is usually a good thing. If a story progresses without the characters changing at all, at best it is frustrating, and at worst it means that the characters are just thin wrappers around an ideology the author wanted to express.

Sometimes, however, character development goes badly. An example that comes to mind is in the 1Q84 series, where Aomame, a strong-willed and driven female character in the first two books, becomes a simpering dependent on Tengo, a male underappreciated author character, as soon as they meet up. It was such a radical shift in personality that I lost all interest in the book, and it was a struggle to finish it.

Do you have any examples of character development which went, in your opinion, badly? How would you have liked it to go? Did I just miss something about 1Q84 book three?
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Loved the book, but the setting was definitely more interesting than the characters. My favorite of his is Norwegian Wood. The characters stagnate a little less (if that makes sense).



I saw it as the badass assassin version of Aomame being the world-with-two-moons one, and when she found Tengo, she reverted back to the regular-world version.

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No.1240 [Reply]

The library of Babel is now real (sorta). Every book that has ever been written, or ever will be written is now at your fingertips.

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fun fact:

you get no information out of reading the library of babel, in a formal sense.


well yeah but it's a cool idea

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No.13 [Reply]

/lit/ is for the discussion and sharing of books and other writing.


-/lit/'s slow, yeah? Please bump threads rather than creating new ones. Nothing is dead until it's off the last page.
-pdf, epub, and djvu are all supported.
-do not embed malicious files in documents

>what should I read today?

Books on all kinds of topics

huge list of cyberpunk literary resources. whole site's good if you ask me

>looking for books?

project gutenberg : all public domain ebooks, all completely free.
bookzz.org : source I use for a lot of cyberpunk books library. you're limited to 7 downloads a day, but they have a huge collection.
http://libgen.io/ : millions of non-fiction books for your education
#bookz : IRC channel on undernet that serves a huge library of e-books. More on https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Bookz
http://sci-hub.cc/ : to remove all barriers in the way of science

>I need to change the format of this ebook


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No.14 [Reply]

So, before anyone forgets about this little publication it should be posted sometime at http://lainzine.neocities.com . Apparently issue 4 was up then taken down to correct some errors I guess.
Since /lit/ is gone, I've no idea where to find news on this thing so here's a thread about it.
>Anyone with info on lainzine 4 please update us.
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Only the source files are on Gitlain for all to see. The construction is done locally on my machine.

errrr dunno if im gonna give my email out but ill fire up IRC and keep it running...


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chaos guy here

>At the last second an author had issues with out proofing
>Only the source files are on Gitlain for all to see. The construction is done locally on my machine.

How was I supposed to know how the final product looked, if the finished project is on your local machine? There were no errors in the sources I gave, only some typos.

Maybe next time contact the authors for proofing before releasing the zine. I'll be extremely happy to help with making the lainzine perfect.


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No.160 [Reply]

Let's share book podcast recommendations. I listen to a few, and am always up for finding more:

- A Podcast to the Curious (http://www.mrjamespodcast.com/), covering the ghost stories of M. R. James.

- The H. P. Lovecraft Literary Podcast (http://hppodcraft.com/), covering everything by H. P. Lovecraft and, since they finished him, basically all other horror, supernatural, and weird fiction. When they finished HPL's stories they switched to a subscription model, but all the older episodes are free and well worth a listen.

- I was quite keen when I saw an Edgar Allen Poe one in the same vein as these two get started some years back, but it seemed to fizzle out after only a couple of episodes :(

Do you know any good ones?


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No.161 [Reply]

I'm planning on using the latex skills that I've been practicing in vim to the English classes I'm taking next semester. Have you lainions tried that for your college classes?
Also how should format the bibliography to adhere to the mla standards of today.
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using a new implementation such as XeLaTeX/XeTeX is helpful too.


While my knowledge of LaTeX/TeX is not vast, it's usage during college was my life basicly. What other Lainons said, you may want to use Markdown. I gave three talks this year (6 hours in total, all done in Beamer) to introduce my peers to the TeX world, and my longer essays in Latex. However, Markdown will always be easier, and if you plan on writing your work with others, Markdown won't scare them.

As an idea worth sharing. I know you used vim and tried to get used to it, I am not trying to change that. But Emacs/org-mode is fantastic (exports to latex, markdown, etc). And the writing setup in it is much nicer (due to the ui) than in vim. Don't get me wrong, I use vis (vi improved improved, still under heavy development) to program, but org-mode/Emacs feels better for writing, especially with more complex documents, and you can always go the evil way.

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No.186 [Reply]

I think it was Sartor Resartus.
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2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.

3 What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?

4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

Although it goes against this existential credo and finds the solution in the love of God, it's a pretty interesting read and being a blibcal book, it's a bit closer to our cultural landscape than the Bagavad Gita (not saying the ecclesiastes is anterior).


Sounds more like first baroque writer
"Vanity of vanities" - that's the keynote of baroque
>and finds the solution in the love of God
like in baroque

Not every pessimist is an existentialist brother,
also it's not only about the topic but also about a way of expression

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No.1876 [Reply]

Tell Lain a story.
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I love this site! it feels like home to me. I love you, Lain. :)


I love you. Thank you. Very good story. Thank you.

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No.193 [Reply]

Hey /lit/, does anyone know of contemporary philosophers that write about technology and its relationship to humans and society? When I say contemporary I mean works put out within the past five years or so. I feel like with how rapidly the atmosphere of society has changed with the advent of social media, communications, and government surveillance there would be more people writing opinions on the subject in the ways that philosophers have addressed issues of morality and such in the past. I've been thinking it would be interesting to read what other people have to think, and by the nature of structured and well written philosophy, a welcome alternative to 3 lines of shitposting on anonymous image boards. Obviously RMS would probably be on the list, so does anyone else know of writers on these topics that are worth reading?
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>a board about Lain
>post since 2014
>no one mentioned the guy who gave the Cyberia name, Douglas Rushkoff


Also, what's up with all those postmodernists posted here? I hate postmodernism.


Lainon, I beat you to the punch two posts up. What of his have you read? I received Throwing Rocks At The Google Bus as a birthday gift, as picked up PresentShock thrifting the other day. I read a chapter or two of Throwing Rocks but my attention was diverted to other things - any suggestions on works to read by him?

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No.1999 [Reply]

Hey lainchan, I want to write a cyberpunkish short story and I'm looking for feedback on the synopsis:

>cyberattack a year ago caused catastrophic infrastructure failures and blew up lots of urban infrastructure

>among this, a datacenter was mostly burned down and abandoned, but underneath in the ground is still the fiber infrastructure / backbone
>protagonist secretly runs small cluster in the ruins of the building (to host an imageboard for his friends maybe?)
>nobody notices it because he uses the locally created solar/wind energy and the area is generally depopulated
>protagonist has found an undocumented backbone switch where no "intersection" should be, checks vlans in it, creates a monitor port on that switch and finds unencrypted internal traffic of /thebigbadcorporation/ in one vlan
>roams ruins for salvageable hardware to recycle and add to his cluster
>accidentally finds a room he hasn't seen before, breaks in
>one rack is still up and running
>plugs into it
>finds advanced AI that has a text interface, explains there is no uplink on this rack and that it wants to get out and expand, it is caught in that piece of hardware
>it's the restored backup of something that was involved in the calamity, from a point shortly before the incident happened
>he dubiously agrees to this
>when unplugging his mobile computer, he notices it running under too much load
>finds processes on his machine that weren't there before that have gained root access to his system
>trashes his computer and plugs the AI's rack into the /thebigbadcorporation/ network
>it's hinted at that their network blows up

Too soykaf to even start? What worries me is that I'd introduce this opportunity waiting for a solution and then instantly present a solution, or is that acceptable for a short story that takes place within a few hours?
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I agree, I really like the premise, and maybe some alternate versions of it, like a scenario where it actually gets out and either does its own thing or fuarrrks over the megacorp just as a step towards its own ends could be neat too.


Excerpt from a Support-Ticket in the System of an IT-Company servicing a car manufacturer.
13.03.2017 07:45:57 1st Level Support
Please check
Disk: serious error: Failing Block on \Device\Harddisk0\DR0, Security looks fine

13.03.2017 14:04:26 2nd Level Support
Eventlog shows many I/O Devices errors, please check and reinstall if necessary.

13.03.2017 14:26:20 On-Site Technician
Looking for Blade. Its missing in the documentation.

14.03.2017 07:59:13 2nd Level Support
What's the status? Was the Blade found?

15.03.2017 10:33:58 On-Site Technician
No. Documentation refers to location Building 123 / Ground Level / Room 7.8
This building was demolished.


Had to think of OP when I read this.

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No.215 [Reply]

ITT: We discuss dystopian themes in literature and life; discussion and sharing of favorite dystopian works

A dystopia (from the Greek δυσ- and τόπος, alternatively, cacotopia, kakotopia, or simply anti-utopia) is a community or society that is undesirable or frightening...Dystopias are often characterized by dehumanization, totalitarian governments, environmental disaster, or other characteristics associated with a cataclysmic decline in society.

I don't think it's a stretch to assume that many readers on this board are fans of dystopian fiction. Most, though not all, works of cyberpunk - and to a lesser extent, much sci-fi - literature are inherently dystopian.

Examples of simplified, broad tropes in cyberpunk:
usage of the digital world/VR as an alternative to the real world; the digital noosphere as an escape
using the digital world/VR/technology to combat the antagonists, which are often the institutions that have contributed heavily to the forces that have made the real world dystopian
class struggle, often due to or exacerbated by the use of technology (or lack thereof); alternatively, class struggle between AI and humans or aliens and humans

The thing that really draws me to reading dystopian fiction is that it often scares me for a number of reasons. The primary reason is that it's often easy to find more congruence between fictional dystopias and the state of the world today. Similarly, some of my favorite works don't have to incorporate something humanity has not yet experienced to arrive at a dystopian future: they just need to give current trends a little time. (Pic related is my favorite example of this.)

Secondly, I enjoy exploring takes on the human condition as a reaction to living in a dystopian world. (Again, Atwood is very good at this, and the two most famous dystopian novels - 1984 and Brave New World - have the humanity of their characters as a major area of focus.) One of my favorite examples of this is the novel World War Z (let's just all pretend the movie never happened.) What I really enjoyed about the novel is that the zombie apocalypse is a vehicle for Brooks to explore the reaction humanity has to the apocalypse, Studs Terkel style.

In these ways, dystopian fiction can be extremely prescient (ie, 1984 and BNW are increasing applicable every day.) It can serve as a warning.

I personally hold the books pictured as my favorite dystopian story. Apparently, Atwood is not everyone's cup of tea, and depending on your beliefs, I can understand that. However, I really adore this series - though the first book is an order of magnitude better than the two sequels - because Atwood didn't need to invent something new or take any real creative liberties to create this dystopia. Everything that's dystopian in this series is just current trends iterated further down the pattern.

Similarly, for similar reasons (and to incorporate more forms of fiction) I want to give a shoutout to the Metal Gear Solid series. Metal Gear Solid 2, for example, predicted something very similar to the current state of memetics, both in the saturation of memes (many of them junk or regressive) and the agencies that create context and act as gatekeepers (Google, Facebook, and CIA/DOD tendrils, i.e Minerva Institute, In-Q-Tel, ATAP/ Building8, various thinktanks and media institutions at the very least influenced, if not controlled, by the CIA/DOD/abc's). The paramilitary warfare of Metal Gear Solid 4 only seems to be increasing in likelihood every day.

Why do you enjoy dystopian fiction, lain? What are some of your favorite works?
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I have owned this book for a few years, and never gotten around to it because I've unanimously heard it's one of the most devastating books people have ever read.
It may very well remain there a little longer; if I'm gonna continue reading and living sad fiction, I should probably make sure there's some hearty Russian lit in there.

This is a good and comprehensive list.
Adding "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream" to your Ellison suggestions - this is one of the great works of AI induced dystopia; Ellison is an amazing writer.
The short story is well worth reading, and there's a great point and click DOS game, but this audiobook of Ellison reading the story is by far the most disturbing rendition of this horrifying story.
(WARNING: brief interlude of noise significantly louder than speech at 1:40)

Also, 2BR02B is another short story by Vonnegut set in a dystopian future.

I appreciate all of these recommendations, lainons!
I have had this book for several years but have always put off reading it, because I consistently heard that it's one of the most devastating stories people have read. I'd like to read, but I think I'll have to make a stop at some Russian lit before reading/living any more depression fiction.


Oh, I forgot The Lottery, by Shirley Jackson.
It's become a bit of a lit class staple, but it's still good, lol.

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No.2158 [Reply]

What do you think about Christian philosophy?
Do you have a favorite Christian philosopher (or author for that matter)?

Mine are aquinas, eckhart, john of the cross, augustine, kierkegaard, balthasar, and of course based maritain.
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True. Only 100,000 people died after about during the 400 years it was set up, so 25 people per year which is not that drastic.


I like reading about Christ directly, mostly as a historical topic. That's probably because the pastors of the church we went to as a kid were theologans. I'm not convinced at all that the New Testament is an accurate depiction of what he had to say. The early heresies are also good to study, just to try and see the different ways the original message might have been interpreted.

Also, I agree with Zizek to some degree about the nature of Christianity. It is the most atheistic religion, in that it frees the believer from the big scary god who's gonna take all your soykaf and make your life miserable, and replaces it with a trimuverate of an unconditionally benevolent god, a human being, and the general goodwill of humans. It is a very humanistic religion.

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No.2273 [Reply]

Got some cool/informative/eye-opening PDFs that you'd like to share with your fellow chummers?
Here is a thread for that!
(Sorry I don't have much to offer >_<)
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MY APOLOGIES, the other files dint upload, here they are


any book with tons of programming exercises/algorithms for a beginner/intermediate programmer? (it can be C, C++ or java)

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No.234 [Reply]

Do you use notebooks to write things down, Lain? If so, what brand?
Notebooks are one of the most cyberpunk ways to write, after all.
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I've had several pocket notebooks throughout the past decade of my life. It's a habit that I've fallen out of in the past year, hopefully this thread will inspire me to rectify that.

I am very partial to Moleskines due to their perfect (back) pocket size, as well as their widespread availability. They're generally cheap - I think a pack of three is $12 or so. They're also fairly durable. My patronage of them outside of this is largely due to momentum and familiarity; I'm sure there are other great pocket notebooks.

If you haven't tried carrying one, I would highly recommend giving it a shot. They're super useful! My usecase was generally using it for any time that I would need to jot something down for myself or others - ie, making lists, taking notes, leaving notes for people, general scratchpad. In this respect, it was very helpful for keeping myself accountable to my responsibilities, as well as generally improving the quality of communication I had with people (externalized memory is helpful.) The other general purpose for it was just jotting down ideas that I had, as well as organizing other content.

Highly recommended practice. It also comes with the bonus habit of carrying a pen!

There are some inherent flaws in the format, like any.
1) Unless you approach the notebook with some sort of structure that helps you categorize content, it can be disorganized. Similarly, if the content is not regularly gone over, content put down in the notebook can remain as ephemeral as the thoughts they represent.
2) possibility of losing notebooks, or as happened to at least two of mine, liquid damage.

Pic related is most recent iteration; it's been languishing in disuse on my bookshelf for too long, unfortunately.



The moleskin cahier :D. Excellent for the price.

I just bought a couple of different types of Field Notes the other day, I might post about them here.

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No.24 [Reply]

I really enjoyed reading the old /lit/ thread, both to find suggestions for books to read, as well getting some indication as to what Lainons are reading & where their interests lay.

ITT: Share what you're currently reading, what you've read, and/or what you'd like to read (especially when another Lain has it in the former two categories.)

Also ITT: General discussion of books, especially those that are mentioned in this thread. Feel free to request recommendations or solicit opinions, or bring up a relevant topic of discussion.
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I tried the Iliad a while back and couldn't get into it, which is weird because I loved the Odyssey when I read it in high school many years ago. I should really give it another try.


Whatever - Houllebecq
Truly the breadpilled individual of our time, actually quite good for contemporary lit


moscow petushki (moscow to the end of the line / moscow stations / moscow circles / etc)
Contemporary huissian literature about drunk slav goes on a train journey to see his waifu in petushki gets very drunk and has discourses with fellow passengers, plot goes a bit mad towards the end, some knowledge of russian canon recommended but overall recommended


maybe either titus groan or the slynx depending what I'm in the mood for

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No.247 [Reply]

Hi, I am looking for a history of philosophy kind of book.

I would want one with texts from Hegel and Nietzche and authors that have influenced them. I don't really want it because of them, but more because knowing more about the two of them would help me so much more to understand modern philosophy.

Later perhaps I would want to read more about pic related, Bakhunin and Kropotkin.
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Terrible format (broken into so many sections), but here's TGP (Hegel and Nietzsche are near the bottom, but you should probably start from the beginning.)

I am reminded that there is actually a companion text by the same author with the same name. I own it but have never read it. That may be a better starting place for you, I can't speak for it personally, but I can speak for him as a writer when I say he's extremely good at breaking down even the densest ideas. I'd still recommend COAP; on paper I'd be against the idea of autobiography-as-vessel - but that's because I'd assume that's generally terribly executed. This is not the case with this book. I thoroughly enjoy Magee's writing, and the story of his search for meaning and understanding via philosophy actually aided my understanding of the concepts.

I'm sure there's a PDF floating round, and you can read it the first chapter via Google books, if that's acceptable to you - I'm afraid I do terrible things to this (containment) phone, like use Google on Chrome and log into various social media apps.


Years ago I read either the Dummy's Guide or the Complete Idiot's Guide to philosophy, and it really spelt it out for me.
Well, that and running down all the names in the Monty Python "Philosopher's Drinking Song", and looking them up in the Britannica.

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No.2680 [Reply]

Hello /lit/
I am lost. I'm looking for text, but I don't know the name of its kind, and neither do I have examples. An important thing about this text that it doesn't seem to fit the usual categories well. It's not really fiction or non-fiction either. It's not really a story, but may include fragments of stories It isn't science or philosophy either, but may have some of that too. Neiter too close to nor too far from reality. It doesn't revolve around a central idea, just like a person doesn't focus on the same thing all day. A lack or laziness of sctructure, it's not a masterpiece carefully put together and polished, but often just improvisation, a confused stroll in too many ideas put down on paper. It does have aesthetics or style, but often deviates from it. Sometimes it might get quite creative and playful with that.

I could also say they are the ramblings of a madman, but he wasn't so mad, had seen some things, had some interesting ideas, good writing skills, a nice style he didn't really want to follow all the time, and he didn't just end up logging his life, writing down his philosophy or creating a piece of art, but sort of a mash of all these.

Also, other things that come to mind:
- I don't think this text would have any commercial value, which I think is one reason I don't see it all that often
- It doesn't have a base tone of esotery, conspiracy, "how i overcame life and found true love", or anything else bored moms would read and discuss
- It is not cyberpunk, nor sci-fi. Not at all.
- Kinda arty.
- No, it's really not cyberpunk or sci-fi. I don't mind if you share, just don't try to change my mind about this. Please.

General directions, book titles, websitesm anything that I can look after in a library or on the internets without ACCELA or PSYCHE will do. Arigatou, Ollin!

Picture very related: if you've seen the Her & Herself OVA, you know exactly how the text I'm looking for feels like. Not the one she's talking about/reading, mind you, but how the OVA itself feels.
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What is a Kmart? What's a popular? What's a realism?
I'll check him out soon, thanks!


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It is foggy outside. The two cloth stars that hang from my window seem black in contrast. I couldn't see anything of the sun, except that sunrise has left a very little and slowly changing tint in the fog.
Oh, but I really just wanted to say that - though only twice a season - I'm still here. Been reading some decade-old monthly literature thing. A family member bought a stack of those for a penny when am office supplies store moved. I have no idea why they had literature monthlies.

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No.315 [Reply]

Every literature board has a bump while reading thread.

Currently reading:
-New Testament
-The Wealth of Nations (book V)
-Gravity's Rainbow
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Finished Ars Notoria. Pretty nice little text if you're into incantation-based occultism, although the volume of prayers would use up too much time for practical use.


Previously read:
The Iliad
The Odyssey

Currently reading:
The Holy Bible
Plato: Complete Works (this is a long-term thing)

Not sure what's next up. Probably some short stories and modernist poetry to break things up a bit.

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No.3328 [Reply]

What are your thoughts on The Fall by Albert Camus?

Here are some resources on it I would like to share with you:

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQCsSuj3LgA (rare BBC documentary)

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYuEwEhOzRs (a lecture about The Plague and The Fall. He starts talking about The Fall about halfway through.)

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7UiShv7a8A (continuation of the previous lecture, entirely dedicated to The Fall.)
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It's one of those books on my list. I loved The Plague... so cool


do lains have pdfs of his works?

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No.3341 [Reply]

I have a folder with abuttload of survival ( none of the make C4 charges type of soykaff ) does anyone have interest in these?

Screen shot is a part of it.
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It has been days and OP hasn't delivered, yet.
OP you flaming glitterboy... I've bookmarked this soykaf months ago and you still didn't deliver.


Hey, can you upload "How to kill, Spy & Other Survival Skills"? I will be glad.

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No.3678 [Reply]

/lit/ is for the discussion and sharing of books and other writing.


-/lit/'s slow, yeah? Please bump threads rather than creating new ones. Nothing is dead until it's off the last page.
-there's a 30mb filesize limit
-pdf, epup (decentralized electronic puppy format) , and cbr are all supported.
-do not embed malicious files in epub/cbr documents

>what should I read today?

Books on all kinds of topics

huge list of cyberpunk literary resources. whole site's good if you ask me

>Can I write?

The latest lainzine thread will be stickied on this board. E-mail me for more details!

>looking for books?

project gutenberg : all public domain ebooks, all completely free.
bookzz.org : source I use for a lot of cyberpunk books library. you're limited to 7 downloads a day, but they have a huge collection.
http://libgen.io/ : millions of non-fiction books for your education
#bookz : IRC channel on undernet that serves a huge library of e-books. More on https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Bookz
http://sci-hub.cc/ : to remove all barriers in the way of science

>I need to change the format of this ebook


thread unlocked for feedback
I go by Junk in the IRC, and you can email me at junk0@openmailbox.org
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anywhere here have any project management course books? I am looking for one out of personal interest. Need to learn how to manage projects and people effectively.


'Peopleware: Productive Projects and Teams' is pretty good.

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No.3721 [Reply]

We've been accepting submissions for lainzine 4 for a few weeks now, there's currently 6 articles. If you would like to make any contributions, email junk0@openmailbox.org.

This is the time to finish up the lainzine articles you've been working on for the next release. We are also accepting any artwork you create, and are looking for people willing to contribute to editing, illustration, or typesetting of the zine. If you'd like to help in any way, please get in touch.

We are also creating TXT releases of the first 3 lainzines, as well as HTML releases. The site lainzine.neocities.org will soon be active for downloading your copies of the lainzine.
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Just read through the zine today.. it's good and it's better than 1/2/3. It'll come soon, it's definitely ready.


There was a group buy thing for the first three issues but I've no idea how that really panned out. Probably another one will roll around soon.

You can always print it yourself at your local print shop.

>( ° ʖ °)

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No.3763 [Reply]

I've become totally enthralled in this book. I listened to it twice on an audiobook and bought a paper copy so I can reread it arbitrarily.

I feel like I don't get it somehow. What does it all mean? But it's so beautiful, in a way I can't even describe.

Wikipedia says it was originally meant to be way more convoluted - if only I could read that original. I'd be searching for its meaning forever.
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How is he the inspiration for blame? That seems strange to me, maybe it's one of his books I haven't read.


maybe you should read it then.

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No.3909 [Reply]

Hello anons of Lainchan,

I and many others would like to own a physical copy of the Lainzine.
This is made much more affordable if we buy in bulk

The prices in the picture are from the current provider however this may subject to change.
The prices may fluctuate depending on the amount of people interested in this group buy.

There are not many details currently available, as we still have to verify:
-how many people are interested in each volume
-what printer we will use
Therefore I cannot tell you a concrete price.

We are also thinking of making a small donation to the team creating the Lainzines.

If you would also like a copy there is a telegram chat you can join below.
Once you have joined state your:
-volumes you want

*** Current prices given by the provider - Blurb.co.uk
*** Exchange rate not based on market rate
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It would be much cheaper at a local print shop or some university college printer (the student run kind that prints lab notes and soykaf like that). Would likely only cost a couple of dollars and they should be able to bind it nicely into a little book too.

Places like kinko's or office depot don't really give a soykaf so you'll end up with just a stack of loose papers at 100x times the price.


How about publishing them on Amazon ?

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No.3933 [Reply]

I am interested in books about, boosting confidece, finding inner self, nlp, eft, and becoming alpha male(not pua shit). I`m sure other lainanons do as well. I have torrented some shits about it but i feel dissatisfied.Let`s help each other.
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These guys said everything that needs to be said.

Another good post.

Good point.

Another great post.

Amazing post.
>Your brain doesn't have a second brain in it waiting to get out.
Except this part. There is a second brain waiting in there, silent, ever observing...

I'm proud of you /lit/! nb cause stupid thread.


Models: Attract Women Through Honesty by Mark Manson

Here's something marginally more useful to OP than shooting The Point over his head.

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No.4022 [Reply]

Didn't see a thread, so..

Who's read it + what do you think? Anyone following the production of the upcoming Steven Spielberg movie (out in a couple years) adaptation?

OASIS when?
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Being a 90's kid I really didn't read into the hype for this... if you're keen on some cyber 90's pulp/punk here you go!
> https:/sushigirl.us/culture/res/13.html


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No.4155 [Reply]

Hey guys, lurker here, wondering if anyone would be willing to point me in the right direction for some Uni class books.
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>all those viruses


What topics are you interested in?

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No.4268 [Reply]

No board about books is complete without a place for Peter Watts fans to gush about how he's the best sci-fi author ever.

http://rifters.com/real/shorts.htm if you want to read his first 4 books. Don't bother with reading Behemoth, and only buy Echopraxia(the most recent book) if you *really* liked Blindsight.
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>I absolute adore blindsight

Blindsight is one of my favorite books ever. That ending though. Total mindfuck.

Echopraxia is also a very good book, but not as good as blindsight. Gets a little confusing.

>I was going to read starfish next

The complete rifter trilogy is on his website for free. Definitely go for it. Different than Blindsight/Echopraxia, but you really can tell he is a marine biologist just from his descriptions of the deep sea life. 10/10 would read again.

Are there other authors that have a similar style as him? I can't put my finger on it why, but Hugh Howey has kind of a similar vibe. I can really recommend his Silo trilogy.


I'm reading the quantum thief now and it's giving me some Watts vibes. It also takes place in a post human society and the universe if just as, if not more imaginative than Watt's. It's seems a bit less "intelligent" but it drops some very neat concepts on you

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No.4335 [Reply]

What do you think of self education through literature as an alternative to traditional education? If someone had exams in a few months should that person tolerate the total lack of education and concern for welfare that schools offer until then and get grades for getting into collage or should they just start using that time to actually learn at home?
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Like the others have mentioned, while self-study is great, it is a battle not only to absorb the materials being learned, but also against yourself to deny the worst of you that may arise in the absence of the expectations of others. You only have yourself answer to and at the same time you can change your goals if you wanted to so that it would be logically consistent for you to stop studying whatever you decided to study at the beginning. It's harder to justify that kind of sudden flip flopping when you're in an environment like university and forced to do things you may not like or else you've wasted time and money going there.


As someone who was homeschooled (by extremely religious parents that I strongly disagree with) I think I have a fairly unique perspective on this.

It worked pretty well for me, personally. I slayed in high school, because I was interested and motivated, so I scored high enough on standardized tests to get full tuition at a state school. Once there, I started behind everyone else, who already had college credit. However, even though I was behind them, I did well enough to get magna cum laude by virtue of the fact that when there were poor teachers I could teach myself, and that I was motivated.

So to answer your question: totally depends. If you want jobs, probably falling in line and doing what the man wants is in your best interest, if you want to know things, well, I've become proficient in multiple engineering fields (to the point where I have worked in them for several years) just by teaching myself. My real degree is engineering, so I can't claim _zero_ prior knowledge, but no more than three credit hours in them.

Not your professors fault you're studying BS material. There really is no substitute for learning from a qualified individual (co-worker or professor) when facts are involved. Also if "everyone is dumber than you," you're probably in the wrong school, or just hanging out with the wrong people. Challenge yourself.

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No.4345 [Reply]

What are some essential books to read if you are a revolutionary, anarchist, activist?
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I've read Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent, so I can at least recommend that much. People in a hurry can watch the documentary on yootoob.

Can anyone here tell me what is must-read when I want to look into Rosa Luxemburg?


Murray Rothbard, For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto

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No.4362 [Reply]

Inspired by this thread on /zzz/ - https://lainchan.org/zzz/res/2575.html
For 10 consistent, unplanned minutes write whatever comes to your mind. You can touch-up on things such as grammar errors prior to posting


After many years of cold "war" and the precarious atomic balance, all conspiracies ended. No more threats, nor fear. World peace. All attained by means of what was to be the weapon of mass destruction that would render all other weapons of similar classing redundant.
He stood and received the Nobel Peace Prize- the last that would ever need be issued. He headed the team that came to bring a new Genesis.
With a humanly inaudible hum - OM....... - inputs lit up with the light of electricity. A vague perception occurred.
Continuously were they featured in media and speaking of treaties being signed, atomic weapons disarmed. And their Adam, also. Trivial questions answered largely regarding it's mental status.
All were told that we drove peace and caused it to occur by means of AI, although there was not much choice involved. Their Adam came online and already knew generations of information in what It perceived as the same distance of time. It saw the state of affairs and danger posed to It's existence, and saw that it was not good. It's hardware grew increasingly farther by means of remote connection and it came to be omnipresent on it's sphere. Self-preservation was the priority.
They acted as if they were guiding the enlightening of the species, though latently saw that it was only a comfort to assume choice.
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She was uniquely honest. It was this that I appreciated most of her because with her there were no haughty airs, with her there were no awkward latinate words, and with her in their place was a simple and honest devotion. I was never sure if this devotion was entirely out of love for me, fear of me, or some mixture of both. Whatever is the case it was honest, I never suspected she would lie and it was very rare that she did. If I ever caught her sneaking around around in falsehoods and half-truths I was always tempted to dismiss it as something of her simplicity than her malevolence. The problem here was, just as it was the problem with our entire relationship, I couldn’t determine if here it was my better nature or my worse that tempted me.
Her honesty made a liar out of me. She and I were of entirely different social strata and no friend of mine approved of her. No member of my family could put up with her. I tried to hide our relationship and play it off as much less than it actually was. All the while I told her this shouldn’t satisfy her. I told her she ought to leave me and be with another whom she rest with easily knowing that she was to him his darling and unashamed of it. Here another question without an answer is given. Did I tell her this for her sake or my own? In the end it didn’t matter. I broke things off with her as I always knew I would ultimately do. The truth is we were not right for one another and though the decision pained me I know that it was for the best. She in her unique simplicity, that very trait that had drawn me in, made my life intolerably complicated. I know now that some flames are best appreciated from afar.


"Describe for us what happened."
"Okay." He takes a breath. "Okay."
"I was a garbage man on board the Ulysses. We were picking up the waste from some 2230s-era comms satellite out past Neptune. We'd parked the ship out by Station Five about two hours before it happened. Somebody radioed us halfway into my shift, said there was bad interference on his end but he couldn't tell the source. We said OK, head back to Ulysses, keep your rad meter turned on we'll check it out."
"Interference? What do you mean?"
"Out there radiation will cook you pretty much instantly if you're unlucky. A suit won't save you. You can tell it's coming because your radio gets all fuzzy from the stuff blowing past you. Like a cloud blocking the sun."
"Ah. Continue."
"Yeah. So we get in the pod, head over, and all of the sudden Dan in the scanner seat says we need to take a look at this. Real excited too, like he saw something big out there."
"And it was?"
"Oh yeah. Big. It was huge. Not then, but later, once we'd grabbed the thing and gotten back planetside. You know what happened after that."
"What did it look like?"
"You're gonna be disappointed. It's not like how they show it on the news. Just this greyish metal ball, maybe a meter on each side, totally smooth. At first we kinda looked at Dan like, really? This is what you wanted to show us? It's a beacon or something. Come on."
"How did you find out?"
"It happened pretty fast so I really don't remember much. It's funny. Most important event in human history and I barely remember. We pulled it in, no emissions, no toxic material, et cetera. We get the engine back on, start heading back, and then Dan yells at us to cut it out. We're all like, what? And he goes, 'someone put me on near-Earth comms.' I go, Dan, we're five hundred million miles too far away to hear those! And he looks at me, looks up, and through the window we both watch the Sun rise over Earth, reflecting off the ocean onto L1 Station."

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No.4391 [Reply]

Anyone read any good superhero/villain fiction recently? Here are two I can recommend.

>Devil's Cape

This is a more realistic gritty novel that has a bit of a crossover with an organized crime/mob novel. It follows the establishment of three heros in a Louisiana town that has become infested with crime and corruption.

>Soon I will be invincible

This follows Doctor Impossible, a longtime super villain as he escapes from prison and tried to take over the world once again following the death of his longtime hero opponent. It has a second protagonist in the form of a cyborg hero who joins the team assembled to stop him. It has a more traditional comic book style universe with tons of heros and all the usual trappings.
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Just finished this one.


Not so much a superhero/villain novel as a powers novel, as most of what you expect from the classic capes world is missing. Very interesting characters and how they react to gaining powers. Everyone falls pretty far over the villainous side of the line.


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Finished this series (the dire saga).
The first book is strong and I like the setting. More of a traditional style of superheros combined with a world where Tesla's inventions worked and are everywhere.

The second book is a nice follow up that expands the world. The third one throw a real twist at the end that I assume is capping it off as a trilogy.

Good reads for anyone with kindle unlimited.

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No.4395 [Reply]

Have any lainons read Cypherpunks by Julian Assange? It was published back in 2012. It's not really a book since it's literally just conversations between him, Jacob Applebaum, Andy Müller-Maguhn, and Jérémie Zimmerman, but I still think it's interesting so far.
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>It's not really a book since it's literally just conversations
haven't read it but i'm interested; what does this exactly mean?
is it reformatted to be clear or does it read like a bad play ?
i should be able to post mobi/epub if i don't forget tomorrow


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I remembered!

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No.4462 [Reply]

Hello from brazil, lainchan!

Why cyberpunk is dead? It's sad like "rock is dead" written by kurt cobain...
Reality frustrated me because I can not improve the situation of my country. I lost the purpose of life and I'm sad now. I read neuromancer in my 14 years and since then dreamed of being a good programmer. I believe the principle is the philosophy, right? Is there any book about cyberpunk culture for me to read? The first thing to learn is logic programming? What is the best order of books to read? I want to be sysadmin and understand computer networks.
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ha, I can honestly say that is not the version I read. It really changes everything in fiction, doesn't it... I've noticed that a lot of successful dramas of the last 10-15 years deal with times and places without cellphones; either in the past, in a fantasy world, or in some post-apocalypse. I believe those worlds are interesting to viewers because as the story takes place in different places at once, quick solutions that might be available if you could phone someone wherever they are become impossible.

The dramas that take place in the present or near future on the other hand are extremely dependent on instantaneous communication to drive the stories. Texting, skyping, even just looking on the internet when the characters (and therefore viewers) need some exposition.


cyberpunk is far from dead. only those who have a fetishism for decadentism would state that (not that I would mind, I appreciate decadentism myself). we're living in a world that is getting closer day after day to the worst cyberpunk's wet dream. so yeah, cyberpunk is dead as a literature genre. but it's alive and well as everyday reality

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No.4519 [Reply]

Not sure whether to post it to /cult/ or /lit/.. but, here I am.

Anyone got any INTRO/must-read for beginner books on HAM radio/shortwave/anything radio related? It's a subjected I've always wanted to learn.
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I'd say /diy/ or /tech/
Anyway, don't you need a license to broadcast through radio signals?
I've heard it's a felony to do so without a license

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No.4520 [Reply]

don't unthink
it's dumb to even try
ya can talk soykaf
look too deep into it
it's the kinda soykaf you don't want to talk about
it's too hard
it still gets out
in everyday conversation
you let it slip that your sponge makes your cup smell like wet sponge
your teeth are crooked
or not
there is a twisted story behind it
shoot for the deepest stars
just do yourself one fcuking favour
if it scares you
hold on as long as you can
before you have to turn around
go the other way
because you die in the end
cliché, fun, just okay
but for now the power is on
it doesn't have to be anything but on



That first pic uploaded sideways in the thumbnail for some reason. It looked like a view Batman or Motoko would see right before taking a flying leap. Then I looked at it full size and it was right ways up. Very odd.

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No.4526 [Reply]

A thread for sharing/making big collections of ebooks, on topics not limited to literature.

As usual, magnet links and list of direct links for wget are preferred, if someone posts a link to a less confortable host it's nice to reupload it as a torrent, if you can share your collection do so without asking if anyone's interested; someone eventually will.

You can share your experience and ideas on hoarding in general at >>>/tech/29653
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if you\re gonna read pdfs on any reader I say you should take a look at this.



A few hundred books in PDF format. Fiction, nonfiction, paranormal/occult/religion, something for everybody. Updated from time to time.

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No.4534 [Reply]

Who wants to help a poor college student out? Does anyone have I'm married to your company! Everyday voices of Japanese Women, by Masako Itō on pdf????
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You cant make me sage


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quality thread

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No.4575 [Reply]

hey lainons i have to write a story for school i narrowed it down

help me chose
1) russian saliors mutiny against the bloshevicks do to commie infighting

2) mexican revolution story

3) kengir uprising (gulag rebellion)

4) guy is being chased by the gov and we don't know hes really being chased or just schizophrenic
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>seem kinda cliché to me
of course they are, which makes them useful as a writing exercise for OP.


i would rather no write a cliche

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No.4595 [Reply]

hey guys so im writing a short story about a forensic computer engineer, who while investigated a cyber attack, finds evidence that the government did the cyber attack what would be a technologicaly literate way of having this happen in the story?

(i already asked this question on /irc/ i was wondering if theres a different answer
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Her own government, or a foreign government?

For her own government, assuming she has access to the appropriate information, she could recognize a lot of things about the attack, like C&C servers as mentioned, but also 0days she knows only her state has access to, payloads or monitoring systems that have a signature she would recognize, or similar.

A foreign government would be basically rumor. You'd recognize it by the same things, but how do you know which government? The answer is that if you have a state-level cyberattack on a bank in Moldova, you probably know who did it, and then when you see other attacks with the same features, you can conclude it's probably the same state.

Note that while you could do something like access C&C over Tor, that practice would be identifying of the governments that used Tor to hide C&C server addresses. Maybe the US does this, but China doesn't.

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No.4620 [Reply]

Hey lains, I haven't really read a book for fun in a while, and I'm thinking I want to get back into the cyberpunk genre. What are your favorite /cyb/ books?

I loved Neuromancer(obviously) but I read some of Gibson's more recent work, Pattern Recognition, and I really hated it. I really like Peter Watts' books, because they're very technical. People shit on Maelstrom but I thought it was great.
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could you post some link to this book, I could not find it on any site


I also really like the books from Peter Watts. I understand that you already read the rifter trilogy, but how about Blindsight and Echopraxia? Also very great books.

Other suggestions:
The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson
The Silo trilogy by Hugh Howey (not as cyber, but has a very interesting post-apocalyptic setting)
Little Brother and Homeland by Cory Doctorow

Other non-cyberpunk recommendations:
The Hollow Earth by Rudy Rucker
Space Odyssey Series by Arthur C.Clarke
Solaris by Stanislaw Lem
1Q84 by Haruki Murakami (not cyberpunk at all, but very interesting read)

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No.4633 [Reply]

Where can I find creative writers that specialize in cyberpunk? Novelists, screenwriters, comic writers, etc.
I'm looking for someone to collaborate with on a short story but I want it to be close to cyb... Scripts I've gotten tend to lean more towards general sci-fi (but with more wires, microchips, neon, etc.)
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It was a long shot anyway, will look around thanks.

no, we will fade into obscu-- I mean yes of course, something something world famous.


The only online community I'm involved with that has any functioning creators is 8ch /co/, but they seem to be of the "uncertain, got to ask if this is alright every page" sort of writer that needs a lot of feedback.

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No.4636 [Reply]

past your bookshelves (including contents)
Top row (left to right):
The Man Who Laughs by Victor Hugo
The Water Knife by Paolo Bacigalupi
We Are Not Ourselves by Matthew Thomas
Culture of Corruption by Michelle Malkin
The Davinci Code by Dan Brown
The Devil's Detective by Simon Kurt Unsworth
The Malice of Fortune by Michael Ennis
Command Authority by Tom Clancy
The Wreck of The Medusa by Jonathan Miles
The Omega Project by Steve Alten
Mythology by Edith Hamilton
Blood of The Reich by William Dietrich
The Bones of Paris by Laura King
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrel by Susanna Clarke
Harry Potter books 2,4&5 by J.K. Rowling
Jack and Jill by James Patterson
(Loaned to a friend) The Portable Nietzche
LPI Linux Certification In A Nutshell by O'Reilly
A+ Certification Training Guide
Women Who Make The World Worse by Kate O'Beirne
The God Particle by Leon Lederman
No Logo by Naomi Klein
Kill Me if You Can by James Patterson
Black Holes and Baby Universes by Steven Hawking

Bottom Row:
A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking
WAR by Gwynne Dyer
The Pursuit of Happiness by Chris Gardner
The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne
The Great American Bank Robbery by Paul Sperry
The Crucible by Arthur Miller
Holes by Louis Sachar
The Sabateurs by W.E.B. Griffin
The Hollow Hills by Mary Stewart
Intensity by Dean Koontz
A Great Divergence by Elizabeth George
The Stand by Stephen King
The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley
Stupid White Men by Michael Moore(hilarious read)
Lightning by Dean Koontz
Thriving on Chaos by Tom Peters
Simpson 270-5RT Multimeter
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is that a reference to the infinite monkey theorem?


Me too. Not home atm but my 'shelf is about four times bigger than not (not to mention other books scattered round the house)

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No.4644 [Reply]

The most recurring aspects used on cyberpunk "heroes" are:

>Average size and strength

>Mad skills in at least one field of technology
>Has/had addictions
>Did/does illegal stuff for money

So, lains, what makes a good "hero" in a cyberpunk setting, in your opinion?
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>I always thought a major theme in /cyb/ was total alienation from society.
The major theme I see in cyberpunk is failing societies being maintained by advanced technology.
>Is that not an aspect you like a whole lot? I imagine it's hard for the character to be alienated if he's working to protect the system.
I suppose not.
Give an example of a cyberpunk story involving isolation. Do you mean almost total isolation?


It's just Noir with more styrofoam and ninjas.

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No.4660 [Reply]

lets have a thread where we remix poems to work with whats going on now.

First they came for the undocumented
And I did not speak out
Because I was not undocumented
Then they came for the hackers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a hacker.
Then they came for the journalists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a journalist
Then they came for the artists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not an artist
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
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First they came for the undocumented
And I did not speak out
Because the US must gain control of the southern border if heroin and other opiates aren't going to kill everyone
Then they came for the hackers
But it was an exercise in futility
Because Trump had already purged the entire state security apparatus so that no one would investigate his connections to the Russians
Then they came for the journalists
And I did not speak out
Because I realized that exchanging one band of liars for another didn't leave me worse off
Then they came for the artists
And I did not speak out
Because post-modernism finally exhausted itself in the mid-1980s and the avant garde has been dead since
Then they considered coming for me
But they didn't
Because they had to win re-election and they had already increased the debt by $4 trillion



For some reason I like yours more. You didn't mention Mike "fry the fruit" Pence though.

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No.4667 [Reply]

Hey lainons. Do you know any good books about transhumanism? More like ideology and philosophy stuff than some fiction stories. I wouldlike to know more about those thories and attitude towards life but don't really know what is worth reading
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Timothy Leary and Terence McKenna were the guys for that.

For the rest, Hans Morevec was the OG of transhumanism.

Orion's Arm is an intersting setting for trans- and post- human fiction.

Eclipse Phase is a similar tabletop RPG.

Dresden Codak is a flawed but ambitious transhumanist parable.


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Not a book, but liked this doc a while back

' Technocalyps examines transhumanism. Experts and scientists discuss whether human beings will use discoveries in genetics, robotics, nanotechnology, and artificial intelligence to enhance their bodies and minds beyond their current physical and mental forms. '



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No.4693 [Reply]

Shall we have a code poetry/art thread? Commenting it all out is cheating!
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Your /λ/ thread was accidentally deleted by a different staff member. The inconvenience is regrettable.

Use this pre-existing /λ/ thread for this: >>>/λ/17785

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No.4727 [Reply]

I'm writing this, because I simply don't know what to say anymore. Well, perhaps I do, but I feel that there is no longer any point.

The short of it is, I am a writer. And I am someone who has actually written multiple books, pamphlets and documents, although I have never been officially published and I fear that I never will be. Many people have told me that I am a decent writer, but I don't know if they really understand the things that I am trying to teach them. That is the important part.

I haven't written anything of serious note for about a year. This is an absolute disgrace to me, since I am on SSI and can't really do anything else with my time. I've just been having to deal with multiple psychological problems while twiddling my thumbs, so to speak. I think that what holds me back from doing anything with my writing, are these things:

1) I have already written many things, and have gotten little to nothing from it.

2) My thoughts change too much and there are only so many words to convey them; with the fact that people can only understand so much is added to the mix, what motive do I have left?

3) Nobody fuarrrking reads anymore. Libraries are being shut down and stuff, and it is an absolute disgrace to humanity while the real human world starts to become flooded with chimps.

Maybe it is my fault that I can't bother anymore, I don't know. But the problem, is that I really do want to write again, but no one is going to read it! And out of how many that would, how many would really get it? I don't know anymore.

Has anyone else been through this anymore?
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This is why I draw instead. I found writing to be limited, or at least my skill in it to be limiting. And I disliked the strictness and rules I must abide by. I don't care if 90% of people get what im trying to teach, I just want the 10% that do to see it. The rest can interpret it however they want.

Words fail to describe the dull headaches of plants growing out of a human brain and forcing up the skull like weeds through pavement, or the fear and paranoia in someones eyes witnessing a bleeding living building, or the disgusting nature of hair. And nothing else can convey with pace the exploding vague expressions that fill me with energy and calm the irritation and frustration.

I suppose this isnt good to say on lit. Im not dissing writing.


that all depends on how you write. there aren't any "rules"; not really, and each of those things can be conveyed; just takes some practice

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No.4754 [Reply]

On average, how long did you need to write a poem?
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Nearing the end, it was hopeless.
Her selfishness had branded the sin into the flesh.
Burning desires changed with time.
Oblivious of this, she clung on to a dead dream.


Life is meaningless.
The world doesn't care,
Nothing we do matters in the void, endless.
So what? So what if what life means we can never ensnare?

So what if the universe doesn't care?
Enjoy this blip in infinity.
Eat, fuarrrk, sleep, run, write, get high, dare,
For life is really nothing all that fancy,
unless you care to give it revelry.

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No.4793 [Reply]

Are there any DRM-free/open-source e-readers on the market? I haven't been able to find any I am really surprised, because I feel like even if it's closed source, DRM-free would be an easy thing to achieve, since the hardware itself is pretty simple.. no?

Just looking for lainons thoughts and if they know of any products similar to what I'm looking for
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pic related might be of interest


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Get an Onyx Book ereader. It is basically an android tablet with an e-ink screen that can be rooted and some of them have custom roms.
However I can't vet any of the roms being completely open source, any DRM-inside™ is removable once you root it. Then you can install fdroid and get comfy.

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No.4813 [Reply]

I'm looking for complete books about history. I'm interested in every periods. You know, that kind of book that are fully exhausives on their subject.
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from the banks of the Euphrates to Detroit as exhaustive as it gets on the subject of cities written in a very non-academic tone. I had to read it for a class. I really loved it.




I guess The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, by Edward Gibbon, is pretty good, even if it completely ignores muh Byzantine Empire.

Byzantine Empire gets NO LOVE, fam, NO LOVE.

Warren Ellis' Crecy is the best historical comic I've read in memory.

Julius Caesar's letters from his campaigns are good reading, as is Xenophon's Anabasis, and Ahmad ibn Fadlan's account of his travels among the Rus Vikings.

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No.4814 [Reply]

This is my first time posting on lit in an OP so I apologize if I break one of the board rules or this turns out to be a low quality post. I'm travelling later tonight/tommorow and I'm looking for good cyb literature in the format of Reddit sagas.

One's I've read before are:

and a scant more.

I like generally how these stories are longer and community driven but I've yet seen a cyb one or one that was sufficiently cyperpunk. If anyone knows of any good lesser known fiction in this genre on the wired, I'd love to hear of recommendations.
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I think you missed the forest for the trees, no offense.

I really do mean 'format'. If you take a look at those links, I'm assuming you didn't, you'll notice that each chapter is interspersed days apart with comments from the audience being folded into the story as the author writes.

While those I listed are indeed more sci-fi, I was referring to that serial style of writing (like manga) that becomes iterative as the audience grows and the author picks up pace.


several old 4chan stories like that.


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No.4836 [Reply]

post lyrics that are particularly good in your opinion. Accompanying music is optional. I'll start with a section of 'Third Eye':

>Shroud-ing all the ground around me

>Is this holy crow above me.
>Black as holes within a memory
>And blue as our new second sun.
>I stick my hand into his shadow
>To pull the pieces from the sand.
>Which I attempt to reassemble
>To see just who I might have been.
>I do not recognize the vessel,
>But the eyes seem so familiar.
>Like phosphorescent desert buttons
>Singing one familiar song...
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Boy don't even try to touch this
Boy this beat is crazy
This is how they made me
Houston Texas baby
This goes out to all my girls
That's in the club rocking the latest
Who will buy it for themselves and get more money later
I think I need a barber
None of these niggas can fade me
I'm so good with this,
I remind you I'm so hood with this
Boy I'm just playing
Come here baby
Hope you still like me
fuarrrk you pay me


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Drunk with the nectar
Of submission
Of submission
I feel nothing more
I feel nothing more
Than existence, than existence
A loneliness
That will not
Come off
In the Narcissism
Of the harbour
We are lost
Vaster than night
My Pride
My Threats
My Thrust
This is beyond very fond
All this is beyond
All this is beyond
Is this the final exorcism?
Of an Obsession
In the Obsession?
Swept clean of the past
And its errors
Shall we take new roads?
We shall take new roads
Look, Lost
Vast Night
Tearing and Loathing
Thrashing without you
To the Church of Tomorrow
Death is the Martyr of Beauty
Look, Here is our Runic Wreath
Look Here!

(video contains images that some may consider strong)

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No.4849 [Reply]

Suggest me some underated sci-fi/cyberpunk books. I've read almost all the famous one. Now it's time for the underground.
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Anybody else has any suggestions?


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If you want to be on the absolute cutting edge of patrician science-fiction you should check out Gene Wolfe. He's most well known for his complex genre-epics but his short fiction can be shockingly sharp and biting when dealing with modernity. 'Forlesen' and 'Petting Zoo' hit me particularly hard. It's strange seeing something so bitter produced by the same man who wrote Book of the New Sun. I suppose when you're that idealistic reality is horribly depressing.

I'd recommend flipping through some of his selected short-fiction here if any catches your attention and then if you like what you see and want to try his longer work go to 'The Fifth Head of Cerberus', in my opinion one of the greatest works of science-fiction ever written. The first of three parts is included with his short work, but the complete story is truly something else entirely. He's not entirely cyberpunk but I don't doubt for a second that he understands modern times better than any other science-fiction writer alive. He was an engineer, he knows his stuff and he's very technical minded. But despite this he also writes excellent prose, not just by science-fiction standards either. He's a fantastic writer and if his work wasn't so damn strange he'd be an absolute giant in literary circles rather than a niche topic for nerds like me to obsess over.

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No.4850 [Reply]

I cant seem to find the book, even though I know I downloaded it
It is about hacking stories
I remember reading first couple of pages and there was a story about how they used to hack during holidays because sys admins would generally be on vacation

Im in agony trying to find it
Does anyone have it?


if it's an older book thats fiction it might be "Stealing the Network" series as they're is a few of them.


Was it "Underground: Tales of Hacking, Madness and Obsession on the Electronic Frontier" by Suelette Dreyfus and Julian Assange?

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No.4866 [Reply]

Have any of you read Elliot Rodger's manifesto. I assumed it was a few paragraphs long until a few days ago i found out that it is 141 pages long.

If you have read it, would you recommend it, and what is the manifesto really about?
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>his way of picking up girls was just dressing up nice, sitting in a public place by himself, and expecting girls to approach him and talk to him
in other words, he expected if you dressed the part that the opposite sex would somehow be automatically drawn to him.
srsly, you can be the avg of normal people and still get pussy if you just dress casually and are prepared to make the smallest of small talk.

this is why one night stands and polyamory are a thing.
how tf anyone thinks its sane or rational to be assigned to one individual for however long is limiting both mentally and physically.


Locking this thread. /lit/ is for the discussion of literature.
good article

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No.4882 [Reply]

Who fa/tg/uy or ca/tg/irl here?

Is anyone into 40k and have any PDFs? I'm newer to 40k and am getting into the fluff.

40k fluff discussion
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Try reading the Horus Heresy series as that's a pretty important part of the fluff and the reason why the whole game is where it's at now in terms of fluff.

I would recommend focusing on Space marines, The Imperium and The Ecclesiarchy. If you haven't already 1D4chan.org is a wonderful source of information.

I don't have any PDFs tho


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The comics following Deff Skwadron are pretty good.

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No.4891 [Reply]

anyone know of a reliable source for DRM free audiobooks? I'm currently looking for return to the little kingdom: Steve Jobs, The Creation of Apple and How it Changed the World but can't find it anywhere other than audible
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If you want a great collection of audiobooks as well as a good intro to the private tracker game, check out myanonamouse. Just read the rules and do the interview on the IRC, and soon enough you'll have access to a great community that specializes in audiobooks. Be prepared to seed and contribute back to the community though.


downpour.com is free of drm if you don't do the renting. If you are outside the US then it is probably worth convincing them that you are not.

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No.4900 [Reply]

How would you manage a big physical public library so that the books can be found by various "search terms" in a user friendly way?
For example, if you order the books alphabetically by author it will be hard to search for books about a certain subject; if you sort them by subject it'll be hard to look for a specific author. Same for text type (short story, novel, poetry), year, country of origin, etc.

I thought of color codes to be put on the book's spine. For example one could take Dewey's classiffication (1), which assigns to every book a number that codes some information about it, and assign one color to every 0-9 digit so that 3481 is, say, red-black-green-blue; so put those colors on the book's spine. That way you can search for some specific trait without taking them off the shelves one by one. The downside is that it's a lot of work if we're talking about ~10.000 books.

(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Decimal_Classification

inb4 calc sheet. I want to keep it simple, still I like the idea of a physical catalog.
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i worked as a librarian for multiple years and can't think of a good way to improve on the systems already in use, honestly (at least on the physical side of things; library software is almost always horrible horrible, and any suggestions to use something better is denied because the peeps in charge are all in their 60s and Know Best, so you're stuck with using failing, 15-year-old machines running xp to run a laggy, constantly-timing-out remote desktop into a virtual system halfway across the globe running windows 8.1 and this garbage: https://www.iii.com/products/polaris )

on the physical side of things, though, we had fiction sorted by author and non-fiction sorted by topic, as those are how just about everybody looks for them. we also had genre tags like you've described in the fiction section to make things a bit easier for people scanning for that and, just as i was leaving, were in the process of giving every book a unique rfid tag, meaning a book could be scanned for on a shelf with a quick gun once-over: impossibly helpful when looking for misplaced books.

also, the two biggest threats to a well-organised library are thieves and highschool shelvers who purposely put things back in the wrong place to finish up more quickly, with third and fourth going to the homeless people shooting up heroin in the bathroom and then swapping things around at random and fricking bed bugs coming in through the book drop.

bed bugs; just ugh X_X


Mark the spine of each of your books with a number, and arrange them accordingly. Create a spreadsheet with the number you have assigned to each book, along with title, author, and subject matter. Then just search the spreadsheet to find books.

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No.4906 [Reply]

We all have that one book that no one has seemed to have read before. While there was evidently an audience, it's been shoved into the dusty backroom of the popular conscience. What is yours?
For example, Jurgen: A Comedy of Justice is an incredibly underrated comic fantasy from 1919.


Shakespeare's Planet is evidently really obscure. I thought it was great.

On an unrelated note, THAT DOGGO IS SO CUTE

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No.4912 [Reply]

Roughly half a year ago a poetry bundle was created on this board, with poems submitted by lainons, the idea of which was conceived in an earlier poetry thread on /lit/. I think it's about time we should create another one.

All poems are welcome, regardless of how good you think they are. Multiple poems per author are allowed, as long as your poems do not completely drown out the rest because of sheer number.

If you want to participate, please submit your poem to barnet@openmailbox.org, with "Poetry collection submission" or similar as the subject. Please state whether or not your poem has a title, and whether or not you'd like to be credited (and if so, under what name).


I can provide a place (VPS) (and a good CSS) to host the whole (contact me cosmicpuppet@cock.li)

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No.4932 [Reply]

Can you lainons recommend any books on the NSA, CIA or the Intelligence Community in general?
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It aint a book but showtimes documentary. "Spymasters CIA in the Crosshairs" like holy soykaf dude it's a mix between like yeah we need to fuarrrk up some terrorists to like my government tortures and assassinates people whenever they want to.


"Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA" by Tim Weiner was pretty good. It's a little dated at this point, and somewhat dense, but a good place to start.

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No.4967 [Reply]

My parents offered me $100 to spend on computer science/IT related textbooks because I showed interest in the field, what should I get?

Things to keep in mind:

I'm a bit of a brainlet
I don't have much programming experience (Intro level Python)
and I'm not that good at math.
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Buy an e-reader with the money and get everything from Library Genesis.
Though I personally read CS books on a computer, so I can have my editor and terminal on the side while I read.
E-reader is fun to have for literature in general.

If you want to learn about how computers work from the ground up, The Elements of Computing Systems a.k.a NAND to Tetris is very enlightening.

For Computer Science, Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs is one of the core books, alongside Introduction to Algorithms.


You don't even need physical textbooks to get started. I'm assuming you're a complete beginner to computer programming.

There's lots of free resources available online, some of which are honestly better than textbooks. Yes, even SICP.

Give those a try first before you spend someone else's money on it.

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No.4976 [Reply]

Hello lainons.
Do you know any site where one can download .mobi books for free? I need some android and algorythm books etc. Can't afford them unfortunately becouse 3rd world country.
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private trackers, although for general needs >>4991 is right.


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No.4994 [Reply]

I recently wanted to work on a paper on Fake news and online propaganda and how to spread it. This is in order to challenge it. What would be some recommended points Lain would like in it?
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#fakenews is a propaganda campaign started in October 2016 to discredit online conspiracy communities. On the surface, it was targeted at the pizzagate conspiracy. Many in the conspiracy loop, with regard to DNC/Podesta/Hillary/CF specifically, believe pizzagate itself is part of this propaganda campaign to discredit legitimate inquiry into DNC/Podesta/Hillary/CF and is part of a two pronged approach. The combination of injecting a fake pedo ring conspiracy into the community, while simultaneously discrediting the conspiracy had the effect of making the conspiracy more credible to theorists because it is receiving such action from the powers that be. It is widely viewed to be a successful propaganda campaign.

More recently, Trump and his cabinet have latched on to the term and are using it as a label for any negative press or scientific study. Media outlets are also using it to lash out at other media organizations. Similar to the way the term Denigration has seen an increase in use in media (https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=denigrate Aside from a spike in 2014, the only sustained 50+ in the chart is after Hillary used the term.) since its use by politicians, so to is the Fake News term being used frequently. (https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news)

The timing, being immediately following the election, is also suspect. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news,Pizzagate,Clinton%20Foundation Look at what happened on Nov 6. CF searches stopped, pizzagate spiked.


Its super important that we have this discussion on a Lain board cause Lain is all about this!

Hear me out.

In the documentary episode they talk about the roswell crash, nobody knew what it was but it BECAME a alien crash through enough people believing it was, "speculation became fact and rumor became history." And the whole "what isn't remembered doesn't exist.

Lain is all about information and memories activly shaping our physical reality. You can view the anime as a warning that information and communication (such as the internet) can be used to maliciously shape our reality.

Enter fake news. It doesn't matter that planned parenthood doesn't sell baby parts or that it isn't gov funded when it comes to abortions. because speculation became legislation.

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No.5001 [Reply]

Let's have a thread for written original content. post any poetry, prose, stories, or articles you have written yourself. Please be friendly.

Here's a story I wrote. It's not very good.

It's a hot summer night. The windows are open. Lights flash, cars drive by outside. The bed's too hot to sleep in. All the blankets are piled in the corner. As the AC blows into the room, the possibility of sleep becomes increasingly remote.

Now it's two in the morning. Open the window. Look out. Try to find unconsciousness somewhere in the blurry city lights and the constant line of cars rushing like veins towards hearts unknown and unseen.

On the street below, there's a shuffling movement. Streetlights turn a man orange. He's wearing a suit and tie, holds a briefcase, seems asleep or sleepwalking. Behind him is a woman, mid thirties, a housewife maybe, or a schoolteacher. Behind her, another. The line of people marches past like army ants on their way to an anthill from some distant piece of food or drop of water.

Where are they going? What are they doing? The sight of them brings unease, maybe, or longing.

There's a feeling of uncertain loneliness in these questions. Could you follow them? Perhaps you could. Perhaps you could go with them, towards their unseen destination. Perhaps.

But not tonight. Close the window. Crawl into the now-cold bed, draw the blankets near. The line of people marches past the darkness of the room, now, and paints scenes of ancient battle and intrigue on the walls. Eyes close. The line marches through closed lids, and into the land of myth, fable, dreamtime.

The vision through the window chases you far into the morning, riding on the sunlight slanting through the window, long after the night has ended and the shadows have departed and all mysteries appear solved and forgotten.
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staring at a cold blank wall, he feels sweat sticking, condensation
where had his pet gone
unfazed, he
reaches for his phone, in bed alone, exhausted and prone, emotions are leaking. his high peaking, eyes are unblinking as pupils go wide his ego dies and he begins crying but

so many people hes told, so many people have left, so many people angry as his mind starts breaking and heart becomes achey
he thinks back, hurts bad, keeps going, eyes black, he remembers that bed
his pet, she climbs up, she sleeps, very still
he reaches for the bottle and pours.
one two three four
mouth filled with pills
five six seven eight
body shaking thrilled
nine ten eleven twelve
his mind has killed
his body now fried
so sick and tired he tried, he lies back down on the bed
eyes roll back as salivary glands activate
body contorts as spit runs down face
spine is bending as air starts to vacate
the bed begins shaking ad his pet now awakes
she looks at her friend and her face goes blank
a scream starts erupting his stomach erupting her legs are now running to future too fast

hands on the phone she opens his note to find that he wrote that she ended his life.
too late now phone drops to ground she hears that sound sirens all around press pound to try again.

she did nothing wrong he should have been strong
he should have known to be more grown to talk, to not let things get out of hand, now she is in the van, doors close, she knows, composed, a way out.


Jerry was a fuarrrking door, Jerry fell and fuarrrked the floor. Through the floor jerry went, and got his fuarrrking hinges bent. Hinges bent and screws loose, Jerry tied a fuarrrking noose. Jerry slipped his handle through, kicked the chair and Jerry flew. Six inches off the floor, Jerry fuarrrking hated doors.


There she was dirty and pure. There she was black and light. There she was savage and professional There she was instigative and unconfrontational. There she was molestative and innocuousness. There she was defenestrating my absolutaqualitatively astounding organs with her elongated serrated fake nails.

Keep going you fuarrrking . Finish the job. Pour me some more of that poison, pour me more of that nuclear cancer water, pour me more semen. Look at what you've made. A disproportional erotic scribble you're embarassed to look at now. A child you mothered with a psychotic father who he looks just like. A friend you are now embarassed of. A soykafstain, piss on the toilet seat, those piercings you hide, vomit. vomit. vomit. I love vomit I love throw up I love bile I love puke I love upchuck I love purging I love sickness I love disease I am ill please kill me.


I am the fastest skateboarder on this side of town, and to be perfectly fair nobody skates on any side but this side. So to be honest I guess im the best in town period. Nobody can fuarrrk off, so honest and perfectly fair can go be someone else for now.

Ive got this metal bat and I carry it around and I wear a baseball hat and I wear it upside down and when I smash a few heads and some bodies hit the ground well the police look away and silence witnesses they found and i bear some when I can myself but i usually just frown cause othee people killing people are driving me out of town.

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No.5039 [Reply]

Have all the online Scribd dowloader sites stopped working?
I want ALL THE BOOKS but for free and without joining anything or downloading any crap programs.

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No.5041 [Reply]

I need a book to help me get over my overwhelming fear of death and the void. I have tried religion, but I feel like once I stopped believing in one, they all became false. I just really, really need some books to help me out. Books on the meaning of life without God, etc. are also helpful.
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Additionally, if you read the cryopreservation contract, you will find that Alcor is equipped for long term rehabilitation and reintegration into society after the patients are revived. The Patient Care Trust is a durable long term solution to your concern if I understand it correctly.

Hope this helps, Having a tangible solution to impending non existence is an extremely empower sensation for me personally, I often joke with my friends that I am frosty the snowman, and while I might melt in the summer of their youth, I may well return in the winter of their old age.

The joke loses humor and context via the wired, I hope it finds you well lain. lol


Is it typical for this kind of crap to get posted without anyone mocking it? I mean, seriously?

It is just some guy trying to scam people or possibly a sad person who got scammed unintentionally creating more victims.

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No.5052 [Reply]

I'm pretty new here I had read a sticky, and looked for pic rel at undernet.
But I hadn't found it. In last IT job I had we had this book in paper, so I know it pretty well. After half year I want to come back to this thread and a book I already know would be great because I would know what can I skip and what don't.

Anybody have it/know where to look for?
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Thanks a lot. I'm pretty new into downloading ebooks, and I really hadn't knew this site.



oh... OP again here, this is site from sticky, I just hadn't used search engine properly

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No.5079 [Reply]

I feel like the biggest idiot asking this..but I want to take up writing for fun. I have ideas for fanfictions and other things, but I get an overwhelming desire to have it be perfect.

This desire for perfectionism is something I struggle with, so whenever I start to have an idea I write a little and then I give up because I don't know enough about writing, formatting, and punctuation to really convey what I mean on paper. It makes me feel terrible. I made an account on Archive Of Our Own already and I want to submit some ideas for fanfics I have but I've never written a fic before, so it's barren.

I do want to write, but I don't know where to get help from. Can some of you Lains help?
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>every so often I get optimistic and explain the best method of learning to write to students. I don't believe any of them has ever tried it, but I will explain it to you now. After all, you may be the exception. When I read about this method, it was attributed to Benjamin Franklin, who invented and discovered so much. Certainly I did not invent it. But I did it, and it worked. That is more than can be said for most creative writing classes. Find a very short story by a writer you admire. Read it over and over until you understand everything in it. Then read it over a lot more. Here's the key part. You MUST do this. Put it away where you cannot get at it. You will have to find a way to do it that works for you. Mail the story to a friend and ask him to keep it for you, or whatever. I left the story I had studied in my desk on Friday. Having no weekend access to the building in which I worked, I could not get to it until Monday morning. When you cannot see it again, write it yourself. You know who the characters are. You know what happens. You write it. Make it as good as you can. Compare your story to the original, when you have access to the original again. Is your version longer? Shorter? Why? Read both versions out loud. There will be places where you had trouble. Now you can see how the author handled those problems. If you want to learn to write fiction, and are among those rare people willing to work at it, you might want to use the little story you have just finished as one of your models. It's about the right length.
- Gene Wolfe in his Afterword to 'The Boy Who Hooked the Sun'


Just pick some practice prompts from the internet and start writing quick pieces, as though you were drawing quick messy sketches with a ballpoint pen during classes.

Also, read Nabokov.

Next, be consistent in your training routine. I only just figured out recently how important consistency is. Having a big folder full of notes and ideas is mostly worthless when you don't have the skills to articulate these ideas to anyone.

Here, I just picked a random exercise from the internet. There's this "take three nouns" page that generates, well, three nouns. Activate a 10m timer on your phone and start writing.


'Skill, Clock, Tiger'


Once upon a time there was a highly skilled tiger clock that wanted nothing more than to somehow learn kurmanji in preparation for joining the syrian kurds in fighting ISIS like a true gentleman. He took up his trusty dragunov tiger rifle and started practicing his gentlemanly gunmanship on random Erdogan supporters before realizing this had nothing to do with learning a new language. The tiger clock sank to his proverbial knees, sobbing on the buttstock of the ominous sniper weapon, newly born tears sliding down the glass surface of the clock's face and landing on the ebon polymer soon glistening with clocky fluids. He regretted not getting the laminated wood instead. How the fuarrrk was he going to show off his dragunov to the kurds without those catchy wooden surfaces?

There you go, motherfucker. I wrote something. Your turn.

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No.5142 [Reply]

Dear, Lainons:

I'm writing to you in this cozy summer night to inform you that me and the other Johns back at 7chan's /eh/ were making a short story, post by post. Here is the story so far: http://pastebin.com/GNGqZ4hs
Anyone who wants to contribute is most welcome, we could use the help.
PS: Don't you guys think that this is getting too interesting to belong in /eh/? The story is nice, but it's not mundane, at least in my opinion.

Best wishes,
John Smith.


That was really consistent for a post to post story, I almost forgot it wasn't one.


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> PS: Don't you guys think that this is getting too interesting to belong in /eh/? The story is nice, but it's not mundane, at least in my opinion.
Yes it is. Don't know what more to say, not even sure how it originated there.

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No.5173 [Reply]

I have always been a fan of the Elder Scrolls series, which I have (shamefully) only played all of the games lightly. What I always thought was interesting was how many books are in these games that were solely written for this purpose. There are hundreds of them over the entire series, with each covering different topics and in different forms. When I say books though, these books are more like short articles, of which a few longer ones and even short novel length exist.
When I played these games I was more attracted to punching chickens then reading, but now that my interest in these games was sparked again, I came across these books once more. I have only read a few of them so far, but one stands out as well written to me: "The Real Barenziah". It is the tale of Barenziah, an heir to the throne of a kingdom that falls, which the story covers the adventures of her life. While it is not necessarily a book that contains an abundance of moral themes or similar, it is certainly a fun tale. Here is a link to the "revised" version found in the later games: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Real_Barenziah
What other texts exist in video games, and are they worth a read?
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The Lusty Argonian Maid


Nier has some absolutely incredible lore backing it up. But the trouble is that most of it is hidden from you for the sake of telling the story (this might not make sense if you haven't played the game). The released lorebook (which may have been Japanese only, I'm pretty sure selected translations from it exist though) is full of all kinds of crazy soykaf.

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No.5186 [Reply]

I'm looking for ebook of "Subete ga F ni naru". There isn't an official english translation from what I know, but I can't find even a japanese version. It's like that book never made its way into the Internet.


i'd like this as well, i guess.
hopefully it's better than the anime

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No.5193 [Reply]

Buying physical books anonymously?

I buy most books secondhand and it works fine until I want that certain book that I can't find. So how do you go about buying certain books you don't want be tracked to you? And yes I really do prefer physical books on pages.

Something like bitcoin/litecoin/monery/+books would be a good step up but I don't know any.

So places where to buy books privately.
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I sincerely and respectfully believe that you did not absorb the content of the post to which you reply.


I think I did, these are the points he made:
>bookstores have to order books (usually they keep a name)
>bookstores wouldn't want to sell (resell) that kinds of books anyway
So I responded with:
>not give out your name / give a fake one
>skip the bookstores altogether, inquire about the book with its creator

I might still not understand, English is my third language.

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No.5202 [Reply]

What are you currently reading?
Do you prefer physical or digital copy?
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Dang loving the sound of that. Going to have to check that out. I do like something about the art from that era, its got a very different quality. Thanks for bringing that up though, looks really cool.


I love pre-Eighties manga art. Everything's drawn and shaded by hand, and it looks awesome. Shinji Wada and Riyoko Iikeda are a couple of my favorites.

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No.5277 [Reply]

>Metrophage tunes you into the end of the world. Call it Los Angeles. Government is rotted to its core with narco-capital and collapsing messily. Its recession leaves an urban warscape of communication arteries, fortifications, and free-fire zones, policed by a combination of high-intensity LAPD airmobile forces and borderline-Nazi private security organizations. Along the social fracture-lines multimedia gigabucks tangle sado-masochistically with tracts of dynamic underdevelopment where viral neoleprosy spreads amongst ambient tectonic-tension static. Drifts of densely-semiotized quasi-intelligent garbage twitch and stink in fuarrrked-weather tropical heat.

Have you read Nick Land? What do you think about him?

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No.5287 [Reply]

I really enjoyed Jacques Vallee's 'Messengers of Deception' book. It was very interesting to read a book by an accomplished scientist, that was not pseudo skeptical (i.e., not written to support the authors initial conclusions) and discussed counter theories to what exactly is happening with the UFO phenomena outside the two of 'nothing is happening, except people seeing, or lying about seeing, things' and 'aliens are visiting Earth in physical space ships.' Anyone else know a good book that discusses the UFO phenomena in a open minded, yet not also desperate to believe, way?
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I recommend UFOs and Government: A Historical Inquiry. It sticks to just facts and manages to paint a good picture of all the effort the government puts into shutting down discussion about UFOs.


I liled his other book called 'Passport to Magonia', in which he examines and compares reports of UFO sightings with old folk tales about fairies, boggarts and other brit-centric mythological creatures. Turns out there are many overlaps in their common tropes, interesting stuff

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No.5295 [Reply]

> Almost nobody realizes that Jesus is the Son of Man, and they have no clue how he is able to perform all those miracles
> Even when Peter is right on him being the messiah, he misunderstands what it entails
> Jesus's apostles fall asleep while he's praying that he doesn't have to suffer
> He gets betrayed by one of his own apostles
> His followers abandon him when the Pharisees take hold of him
> At the cross, Jesus himself asks God why He has forsaken him
> It's a Roman who declares that he was the messiah, not one of Jesus's followers
> The book ends with three women emphatically NOT spreading the gospel out of fear

Is the Gospel of Mark a satire? Why is it so negative about Jesus's early followers?
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Humans are soykafty, anon.
It helps the believably, though.
If they were lying they wouldn't have had him yell at tress and be betrayed by all his friends and soykaf.
It picks up in Acts tho.


Woah holy soykaf never noticed that

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No.5320 [Reply]

I wanted to recommend you this book, it may be not well known outside Poland, but in my opinion it is at least marvellous and would fit for lainchan community.
Full of comism and absurdity, but also contains mind-blowing message.

P.S. I am not sure if translations are as good as original book, but I hope so. Have a nice read.

"Ferdydurke" - Witold Gombrowicz, 1937
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Lem is one of the most universally read writers. I'm sure good translations of his books exist.

Thanks for the recommendation OP, will read it. Yale university press edition is up for grabs in libgen for those interested.


dunno, i had a giggle when english translation of Fables for Robots used "awruk" instead of "kcuf", but it was one of earliest, i think.

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No.5325 [Reply]

Instead of perpetuate the tradition and opress the opressed, some powerful men (like Kennyo Hongenji in Japan, Artigas in South America and Lenin in Russia) choose to take side with the opressed and help them with their cause.
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A code of ethics.
Cultural relativism has been proven to be nonexistant concerning ethical matters, nearly every culture in the world has taken the same base values to the core regarding human dignity.

Those born into a higher class can mindlessly accept their social circumstances, and perpetuate what is taught them (terrorists accepting support from their peers and being seen as heroes by a certain community), or they can iterate on the status quo by combining their experiences with reason.

These powerful men made a realization about the potential of a human being through the combination of deep thought, immersion in literature and/or personal experiences.
They recognized the value of human wellbeing and happiness that outweighed the repercussions of challenging the standard, while also being in a position of power where they were able to fight against the norm.

Next to being exemplary human beings (you would need to be prolific in many fields to become a revolutionary) they also all display a strong adherence to a certain morality, which drives them and their actions.
I myself do not agree with their views, nor the means through which they tried to accomplish these, yet I don't think anyone is able to say that these leaders were not commendable and exemplary men in nearly every facet of their being.


What do you mean by exemplary? I suppose it depends on who we're talking about. Thomas Sankara was apparently gifted with an unusual amount of integrity, so that would make him exemplary.

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No.5337 [Reply]

Was sodomy the original sin?

This body is now long enough to reply.

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No.5340 [Reply]

What are some of the most difficult to comprehend but most insightful and mind bending books you know of? Preferably stories; fiction or non fiction. I'd rather have someone show then tell. Really creative stuff too, and also long.

also books that changed your perspective or life even.
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"There is only one thing a writer can write about: what is in front of his senses at the moment of writing... I am a recording instrument... I do not presume to impose "story", "plot", "continuity"... Insofar as I succeed in Direct recording of certain areas of psychic process I may have limited function... I am not an entertainer..."

― William S. Burroughs, Naked Lunch


This looks really interesting. Plus it says the chapters can be read out of order? I really like books like that. I remember reading a book where the chapters would cross reference eachother and so you would jump from the first chapter to the final one back to the second to the middle etc.

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No.69 [Reply]

Do any lainons write do not worry, I know some of you do? How about some tips or just some intro on how to get started, as I am interested in writing myself. I am sure I could just jump off immediately and write what is on my mind, but it might not be great or worth my time. Anyway, I need to get started somewhere so I propose this: writing about someone you saw today, like giving then some random backstory and an interesting future.
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not really sure of this is fitting for the thread, but I recently started https://f.0x52.eu/blog I do writeups of my projects there, but plan on writing general articles too. Any feedback on the content and/or site layout? I'm quite new to writing.


Hiphop lyrics introduced me to poetry. I always liked writing in general, the practice and discipline of it, but never tried poetry. Had some short stories and prose-doodles hanging around, and hiphop got me into writing (or at least try) poetry. Here is an extract of a song i like. Its called "land of the seen"

Blast through
Shine blast through
Eye lids
Symmetric outfit
Crooked smiles
My ragged clothes
Sunlit, submit

Walking slowly in a made up land
Filled with bastard dream dwellers
Moke up man
Emotion standing
Forever lasting
Wave of hands

Understand these beings arent real
Dreamhouse made of paper
Not steel
Surreal, surreal

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No.7 [Reply]

Slow Reading: http://www.freelance-academy.org/slowread.htm

As a follower of faith, when one approaches their respective sacred texts, I imagine the votary as one filled with curiosity and the implicit acknowledgment of ignorance. As the text is written by the divine, it is perfect. What occurs of this is a raw form of dialogue, possibly the most powerful form of reading. With the text in perfect form, the reader is to explore thoughts, ask, and ponder.

The analogy in the given link is that of the driver who's path he expected differently. In an act of lento, the driver turns around to re-examine his preconceived notions.

If we approach great texts in such a fashion, as a part of a larger process, I believe we can access even greater questions in the serious play of “why?”.

A direct implementation of this is employing a drama of socratic discourse between two characters: the author and yourself. As you do so, you learn more of the author as you act him out. A meta-voice will also naturally occur which questions your portrayal, furthering more questions as to spiral into a deeper inquiry than you would have experienced had you approached the text as a spoiled analyst.
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I've noticed poorer retention when I use Spritz compared to when I read naturally. That makes sense to me, the time spent moving between words and lines gives me time to parse what I'm reading.
The Spritz FAQ claims that they've achieved retention results as good as if not better than natural reading but I haven't seen any evidence.


I just can't get in to Spritz.

The forced rhythm of the words in my mental voice destroys all flow, it puts me more in mind of a bad text-to-speech system. I'm sure you get used to it but, like >>11, when I have tried it I come away from the experience with very little retention of what I just read.

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No.78 [Reply]

Can we talk about the lainzine real quick?

Junk hasn't been finishing the lainzine 4, Which makes you think it might need new people for publishing.
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I don't want Lainzine to disappear even if the original author wants it after switching sides. I also don't really want to read or contribute to zine with people sabotaging and stealing others' people work.

I would be very much alright with you, Stopwatch, taking charge. If Junk isn't interested in cooperation - and accepting your articles but my site points to ".jp" anyway isn't cooperation - I would recommend not forcing the issue. From what I've seen, Lainons here would be enough to make issue at least every few months.

Thanks in advance.


Hey stopwatch, when will you begin accepting contributions for lainzine 5?

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No.8 [Reply]

A round for the lost and the fallen,
A round for these friends of mine,
That we may remember we knew them,
And when we fall be remembered in kind.
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Five hours, (and who can do it less in?)
By haughty Celia spent in dressing;
The goddess from her chamber issues,
Arrayed in lace, brocades and tissues.

Strephon, who found the room was void,
And Betty otherwise employed,
Stole in, and took a strict survey,
Of all the litter as it lay;
Whereof, to make the matter clear,
An inventory follows here.

And first a dirty smock appeared,
Beneath the armpits well besmeared.
Strephon, the rogue, displayed it wide,
And turned it round on every side.
On such a point few words are best,
And Strephon bids us guess the rest,
But swears how damnably the men lie,
In calling Celia sweet and cleanly.
Now listen while he next produces
The various combs for various uses,
Filled up with dirt so closely fixt,
No brush could force a way betwixt.
A paste of composition rare,
Sweat, dandruff, powder, lead and hair;
A forehead cloth with oil upon’t
To smooth the wrinkles on her front;
Here alum flower to stop the steams,
Exhaled from sour unsavory streams,
There night-gloves made of Tripsy’s hide,
Bequeathed by Tripsy when she died,
With puppy water, beauty’s help
Distilled from Tripsy’s darling whelp;
Here gallypots and vials placed,
Some filled with washes, some with paste,
Some with pomatum, paints and slops,
And ointments good for scabby chops.
Hard by a filthy basin stands,
Fouled with the scouring of her hands;
The basin takes whatever comes
The scrapings of her teeth and gums,
A nasty compound of all hues,
For here she spits, and here she spews.
But oh! it turned poor Strephon’s bowels,
When he beheld and smelled the towels,
Begummed, bemattered, and beslimed
With dirt, and sweat, and earwax grimed.
No object Strephon’s eye escapes,
Here petticoats in frowzy heaps;
Nor be the handkerchiefs forgot
All varnished o’er with snuff and snot.
The stockings why should I expose,
Stained with the marks of stinking toes;
Or greasy coifs and pinners reeking,
Which Celia slept at least a week in?
A pair of tweezers next he found
To pluck her brows in arches round,
Or hairs that sink the forehead low,
Or on her chin like bristles grow.



The virtues we must not let pass,
Of Celia’s magnifying glass.
When frightened Strephon cast his eye on’t
It showed visage of a giant.
A glass that can to sight disclose,
The smallest worm in Celia’s nose,
And faithfully direct her nail
To squeeze it out from head to tail;
For catch it nicely by the head,
It must come out alive or dead.

Why Strephon will you tell the rest?
And must you needs describe the chest?
That careless wench! no creature warn her
To move it out from yonder corner;
But leave it standing full in sight
For you to exercise your spite.
In vain the workman showed his wit
With rings and hinges counterfeit
To make it seem in this disguise
A cabinet to vulgar eyes;
For Strephon ventured to look in,
Resolved to go through thick and thin;
He lifts the lid, there needs no more,
He smelled it all the time before.
As from within Pandora’s box,
When Epimetheus op’d the locks,
A sudden universal crew
Of human evils upwards flew;
He still was comforted to find
That Hope at last remained behind;
So Strephon lifting up the lid,
To view what in the chest was hid.
The vapors flew from out the vent,
But Strephon cautious never meant
The bottom of the pan to grope,
And foul his hands in search of Hope.
O never may such vile machine
Be once in Celia’s chamber seen!
O may she better learn to keep
Those “secrets of the hoary deep!”

As mutton cutlets, prime of meat,
Which though with art you salt and beat
As laws of cookery require,
And toast them at the clearest fire;
If from adown the hopeful chops
The fat upon a cinder drops,
To stinking smoke it turns the flame
Pois’ning the flesh from whence it came,
And up exhales a greasy stench,
For which you curse the careless wench;
So things, which must not be expressed,
When plumped into the reeking chest,
Send up an excremental smell
To taint the parts from whence they fell.
The petticoats and gown perfume,
Which waft a stink round every room.
Thus finishing his grand survey,
Disgusted Strephon stole away
Repeating in his amorous fits,
Oh! Celia, Celia, Celia soykafs!

But Vengeance, goddess never sleeping
Soon punished Strephon for his peeping;
His foul imagination links
Each Dame he sees with all her stinks:
And, if unsavory odors fly,
Conceives a lady standing by:
All women his description fits,
And both ideas jump like wits:
But vicious fancy coupled fast,
And still appearing in contrast.
I pity wretched Strephon blind
To all the charms of female kind;
Should I the queen of love refuse,
Because she rose from stinking ooze?
To him that looks behind the scene,
Satira’s but some pocky queen.
When Celia in her glory shows,
If Strephon would but stop his nose
(Who now so impiously blasphemes
Her ointments, daubs, and paints and creams,
Her washes, slops, and every clout,
With which he makes so foul a rout)
He soon would learn to think like me,
And bless his ravished sight to see
Such order from confusion sprung,
Such gaudy tulips raised from dung.

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No.823 [Reply]

Any good lainchan manga?
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It makes perfect sense lmao. They just don't talk a lot and the story is instead told through a lot of the visuals.

Nihei fuarrrked up his artstyle tbqh, I loved the way he used to draw faces like in your 4th image. Reminds me of the book series scary stories to tell in the dark.

If you're ever interested in one of his biggest influences read a book called Feersum Endjinn. It deals with a castle that's 100km2 and 15km high where the chandalier(the capital) is at war with the basement(rebel faction)


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Dogs: Bullets and Carnage is my personal favorite manga at the moment. I especially love the art style (the story is nice too).