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Let's get this party started

Libraries and book recommendations thread

http://clockwise3rldkgu.onion/index.php - Clockwise
http://xfmro77i3lixucja.onion/ - Imperial Library of Trantor
http://c3jemx2ube5v5zpg.onion/ - Hidden book club (currently down, but bookmark it because it will likely be back soon)

If you haven't read the foundation series by Isaac Asimov yet drop everything and do that right now.
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Anybody on here write? Care to share anything you've written?
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Appreciating literature and poetry

This topic lead to a bit of discussion on other websites when I started it so might as well talk about it here too.

How do you best appreciate a book? Do you read it in a superficial way and only look at the surface (story, setting) or do you go deeper to find more?
Most books released nowadays barely have any deeper meaning, they mostly repeat "criticism" that was mentioned in tons of other books (for example like most YA or dystopia books criticise our current society)

Is it correct to analyze poems and prose or should they be enjoyed aesthetically and emotionally?

I like to think of this movie clip of The Dead Poets Society
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When character development goes badly

Character development is usually a good thing. If a story progresses without the characters changing at all, at best it is frustrating, and at worst it means that the characters are just thin wrappers around an ideology the author wanted to express.

Sometimes, however, character development goes badly. An example that comes to mind is in the 1Q84 series, where Aomame, a strong-willed and driven female character in the first two books, becomes a simpering dependent on Tengo, a male underappreciated author character, as soon as they meet up. It was such a radical shift in personality that I lost all interest in the book, and it was a struggle to finish it.

Do you have any examples of character development which went, in your opinion, badly? How would you have liked it to go? Did I just miss something about 1Q84 book three?
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Library of Babel

The library of Babel is now real (sorta). Every book that has ever been written, or ever will be written is now at your fingertips.

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The Sticky

/lit/ is for the discussion and sharing of books and other writing.


-/lit/'s slow, yeah? Please bump threads rather than creating new ones. Nothing is dead until it's off the last page.
-pdf, epub, and djvu are all supported.
-do not embed malicious files in documents

>what should I read today?

Books on all kinds of topics

huge list of cyberpunk literary resources. whole site's good if you ask me

>looking for books?

project gutenberg : all public domain ebooks, all completely free.
bookzz.org : source I use for a lot of cyberpunk books library. you're limited to 7 downloads a day, but they have a huge collection.
http://libgen.io/ : millions of non-fiction books for your education
#bookz : IRC channel on undernet that serves a huge library of e-books. More on https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Bookz
http://sci-hub.cc/ : to remove all barriers in the way of science

>I need to change the format of this ebook

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Lainzine 4

So, before anyone forgets about this little publication it should be posted sometime at http://lainzine.neocities.com . Apparently issue 4 was up then taken down to correct some errors I guess.
Since /lit/ is gone, I've no idea where to find news on this thing so here's a thread about it.
>Anyone with info on lainzine 4 please update us.
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Literary Podcasts

Let's share book podcast recommendations. I listen to a few, and am always up for finding more:

- A Podcast to the Curious (http://www.mrjamespodcast.com/), covering the ghost stories of M. R. James.

- The H. P. Lovecraft Literary Podcast (http://hppodcraft.com/), covering everything by H. P. Lovecraft and, since they finished him, basically all other horror, supernatural, and weird fiction. When they finished HPL's stories they switched to a subscription model, but all the older episodes are free and well worth a listen.

- I was quite keen when I saw an Edgar Allen Poe one in the same vein as these two get started some years back, but it seemed to fizzle out after only a couple of episodes :(

Do you know any good ones?
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latex for writing books & essays

I'm planning on using the latex skills that I've been practicing in vim to the English classes I'm taking next semester. Have you lainions tried that for your college classes?
Also how should format the bibliography to adhere to the mla standards of today.
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What was the first existentialist piece of literature?

I think it was Sartor Resartus.
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Tell Lain a story.
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Hey /lit/, does anyone know of contemporary philosophers that write about technology and its relationship to humans and society? When I say contemporary I mean works put out within the past five years or so. I feel like with how rapidly the atmosphere of society has changed with the advent of social media, communications, and government surveillance there would be more people writing opinions on the subject in the ways that philosophers have addressed issues of morality and such in the past. I've been thinking it would be interesting to read what other people have to think, and by the nature of structured and well written philosophy, a welcome alternative to 3 lines of shitposting on anonymous image boards. Obviously RMS would probably be on the list, so does anyone else know of writers on these topics that are worth reading?
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AIs, abandoned datacenters, sticking it to the man

Hey lainchan, I want to write a cyberpunkish short story and I'm looking for feedback on the synopsis:

>cyberattack a year ago caused catastrophic infrastructure failures and blew up lots of urban infrastructure

>among this, a datacenter was mostly burned down and abandoned, but underneath in the ground is still the fiber infrastructure / backbone
>protagonist secretly runs small cluster in the ruins of the building (to host an imageboard for his friends maybe?)
>nobody notices it because he uses the locally created solar/wind energy and the area is generally depopulated
>protagonist has found an undocumented backbone switch where no "intersection" should be, checks vlans in it, creates a monitor port on that switch and finds unencrypted internal traffic of /thebigbadcorporation/ in one vlan
>roams ruins for salvageable hardware to recycle and add to his cluster
>accidentally finds a room he hasn't seen before, breaks in
>one rack is still up and running
>plugs into it
>finds advanced AI that has a text interface, explains there is no uplink on this rack and that it wants to get out and expand, it is caught in that piece of hardware
>it's the restored backup of something that was involved in the calamity, from a point shortly before the incident happened
>he dubiously agrees to this
>when unplugging his mobile computer, he notices it running under too much load
>finds processes on his machine that weren't there before that have gained root access to his system
>trashes his computer and plugs the AI's rack into the /thebigbadcorporation/ network
>it's hinted at that their network blows up

Too soykaf to even start? What worries me is that I'd introduce this opportunity waiting for a solution and then instantly present a solution, or is that acceptable for a short story that takes place within a few hours?
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Dystopia: themes and novels

ITT: We discuss dystopian themes in literature and life; discussion and sharing of favorite dystopian works

A dystopia (from the Greek δυσ- and τόπος, alternatively, cacotopia, kakotopia, or simply anti-utopia) is a community or society that is undesirable or frightening...Dystopias are often characterized by dehumanization, totalitarian governments, environmental disaster, or other characteristics associated with a cataclysmic decline in society.

I don't think it's a stretch to assume that many readers on this board are fans of dystopian fiction. Most, though not all, works of cyberpunk - and to a lesser extent, much sci-fi - literature are inherently dystopian.

Examples of simplified, broad tropes in cyberpunk:
usage of the digital world/VR as an alternative to the real world; the digital noosphere as an escape
using the digital world/VR/technology to combat the antagonists, which are often the institutions that have contributed heavily to the forces that have made the real world dystopian
class struggle, often due to or exacerbated by the use of technology (or lack thereof); alternatively, class struggle between AI and humans or aliens and humans

The thing that really draws me to reading dystopian fiction is that it often scares me for a number of reasons. The primary reason is that it's often easy to find more congruence between fictional dystopias and the state of the world today. Similarly, some of my favorite works don't have to incorporate something humanity has not yet experienced to arrive at a dystopian future: they just need to give current trends a little time. (Pic related is my favorite example of this.)

Secondly, I enjoy exploring takes on the human condition as a reaction to living in a dystopian world. (Again, Atwood is very good at this, and the two most famous dystopian novels - 1984 and Brave New World - have the humanity of their characters as a major area of focus.) One of my favorite examples of this is the novel World War Z (let's just all pretend the movie never happened.) What I really enjoyed about the novel is that the zombie apocalypse is a vehicle for Brooks to explore the reaction humanity has to the apocalypse, Studs Terkel style.

In these ways, dystopian fiction can be extremely prescient (ie, 1984 and BNW are increasing applicable every day.) It can serve as a warning.

I personally hold the books pictured as my favorite dystopian story. Apparently, Atwood is not everyone's cup of tea, and depending on your beliefs, I can understand that. However, I really adore this series - though the first book is an order of magnitude better than the two sequels - because Atwood didn't need to invent something new or take any real creative liberties to create this dystopia. Everything that's dystopian in this series is just current trends iterated further down the pattern.

Similarly, for similar reasons (and to incorporate more forms of fiction) I want to give a shoutout to the Metal Gear Solid series. Metal Gear Solid 2, for example, predicted something very similar to the current state of memetics, both in the saturation of memes (many of them junk or regressive) and the agencies that create context and act as gatekeepers (Google, Facebook, and CIA/DOD tendrils, i.e Minerva Institute, In-Q-Tel, ATAP/ Building8, various thinktanks and media institutions at the very least influenced, if not controlled, by the CIA/DOD/abc's). The paramilitary warfare of Metal Gear Solid 4 only seems to be increasing in likelihood every day.

Why do you enjoy dystopian fiction, lain? What are some of your favorite works?
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What do you think about Christian philosophy?
Do you have a favorite Christian philosopher (or author for that matter)?

Mine are aquinas, eckhart, john of the cross, augustine, kierkegaard, balthasar, and of course based maritain.
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Got some cool/informative/eye-opening PDFs that you'd like to share with your fellow chummers?
Here is a thread for that!
(Sorry I don't have much to offer >_<)
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Do you use notebooks to write things down, Lain? If so, what brand?
Notebooks are one of the most cyberpunk ways to write, after all.
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What are you reading, Lain?

I really enjoyed reading the old /lit/ thread, both to find suggestions for books to read, as well getting some indication as to what Lainons are reading & where their interests lay.

ITT: Share what you're currently reading, what you've read, and/or what you'd like to read (especially when another Lain has it in the former two categories.)

Also ITT: General discussion of books, especially those that are mentioned in this thread. Feel free to request recommendations or solicit opinions, or bring up a relevant topic of discussion.
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History of philosophy book reccomendation.

Hi, I am looking for a history of philosophy kind of book.

I would want one with texts from Hegel and Nietzche and authors that have influenced them. I don't really want it because of them, but more because knowing more about the two of them would help me so much more to understand modern philosophy.

Later perhaps I would want to read more about pic related, Bakhunin and Kropotkin.
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Hello /lit/
I am lost. I'm looking for text, but I don't know the name of its kind, and neither do I have examples. An important thing about this text that it doesn't seem to fit the usual categories well. It's not really fiction or non-fiction either. It's not really a story, but may include fragments of stories It isn't science or philosophy either, but may have some of that too. Neiter too close to nor too far from reality. It doesn't revolve around a central idea, just like a person doesn't focus on the same thing all day. A lack or laziness of sctructure, it's not a masterpiece carefully put together and polished, but often just improvisation, a confused stroll in too many ideas put down on paper. It does have aesthetics or style, but often deviates from it. Sometimes it might get quite creative and playful with that.

I could also say they are the ramblings of a madman, but he wasn't so mad, had seen some things, had some interesting ideas, good writing skills, a nice style he didn't really want to follow all the time, and he didn't just end up logging his life, writing down his philosophy or creating a piece of art, but sort of a mash of all these.

Also, other things that come to mind:
- I don't think this text would have any commercial value, which I think is one reason I don't see it all that often
- It doesn't have a base tone of esotery, conspiracy, "how i overcame life and found true love", or anything else bored moms would read and discuss
- It is not cyberpunk, nor sci-fi. Not at all.
- Kinda arty.
- No, it's really not cyberpunk or sci-fi. I don't mind if you share, just don't try to change my mind about this. Please.

General directions, book titles, websitesm anything that I can look after in a library or on the internets without ACCELA or PSYCHE will do. Arigatou, Ollin!

Picture very related: if you've seen the Her & Herself OVA, you know exactly how the text I'm looking for feels like. Not the one she's talking about/reading, mind you, but how the OVA itself feels.
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Every literature board has a bump while reading thread.

Currently reading:
-New Testament
-The Wealth of Nations (book V)
-Gravity's Rainbow
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What are your thoughts on The Fall by Albert Camus?

Here are some resources on it I would like to share with you:

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQCsSuj3LgA (rare BBC documentary)

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYuEwEhOzRs (a lecture about The Plague and The Fall. He starts talking about The Fall about halfway through.)

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7UiShv7a8A (continuation of the previous lecture, entirely dedicated to The Fall.)
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I have a folder with abuttload of survival ( none of the make C4 charges type of soykaff ) does anyone have interest in these?

Screen shot is a part of it.
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/lit/ is for the discussion and sharing of books and other writing.


-/lit/'s slow, yeah? Please bump threads rather than creating new ones. Nothing is dead until it's off the last page.
-there's a 30mb filesize limit
-pdf, epup (decentralized electronic puppy format) , and cbr are all supported.
-do not embed malicious files in epub/cbr documents

>what should I read today?

Books on all kinds of topics

huge list of cyberpunk literary resources. whole site's good if you ask me

>Can I write?

The latest lainzine thread will be stickied on this board. E-mail me for more details!

>looking for books?

project gutenberg : all public domain ebooks, all completely free.
bookzz.org : source I use for a lot of cyberpunk books library. you're limited to 7 downloads a day, but they have a huge collection.
http://libgen.io/ : millions of non-fiction books for your education
#bookz : IRC channel on undernet that serves a huge library of e-books. More on https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Bookz
http://sci-hub.cc/ : to remove all barriers in the way of science

>I need to change the format of this ebook


thread unlocked for feedback
I go by Junk in the IRC, and you can email me at junk0@openmailbox.org
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Lainzine 4 thread

We've been accepting submissions for lainzine 4 for a few weeks now, there's currently 6 articles. If you would like to make any contributions, email junk0@openmailbox.org.

This is the time to finish up the lainzine articles you've been working on for the next release. We are also accepting any artwork you create, and are looking for people willing to contribute to editing, illustration, or typesetting of the zine. If you'd like to help in any way, please get in touch.

We are also creating TXT releases of the first 3 lainzines, as well as HTML releases. The site lainzine.neocities.org will soon be active for downloading your copies of the lainzine.
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I've become totally enthralled in this book. I listened to it twice on an audiobook and bought a paper copy so I can reread it arbitrarily.

I feel like I don't get it somehow. What does it all mean? But it's so beautiful, in a way I can't even describe.

Wikipedia says it was originally meant to be way more convoluted - if only I could read that original. I'd be searching for its meaning forever.
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Lainzine Group buy

Hello anons of Lainchan,

I and many others would like to own a physical copy of the Lainzine.
This is made much more affordable if we buy in bulk

The prices in the picture are from the current provider however this may subject to change.
The prices may fluctuate depending on the amount of people interested in this group buy.

There are not many details currently available, as we still have to verify:
-how many people are interested in each volume
-what printer we will use
Therefore I cannot tell you a concrete price.

We are also thinking of making a small donation to the team creating the Lainzines.

If you would also like a copy there is a telegram chat you can join below.
Once you have joined state your:
-volumes you want

*** Current prices given by the provider - Blurb.co.uk
*** Exchange rate not based on market rate
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I am interested in books about, boosting confidece, finding inner self, nlp, eft, and becoming alpha male(not pua shit). I`m sure other lainanons do as well. I have torrented some shits about it but i feel dissatisfied.Let`s help each other.
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Ready Player One?

Didn't see a thread, so..

Who's read it + what do you think? Anyone following the production of the upcoming Steven Spielberg movie (out in a couple years) adaptation?

OASIS when?
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University Books

Hey guys, lurker here, wondering if anyone would be willing to point me in the right direction for some Uni class books.
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Peter Watts circlejerk

No board about books is complete without a place for Peter Watts fans to gush about how he's the best sci-fi author ever.

http://rifters.com/real/shorts.htm if you want to read his first 4 books. Don't bother with reading Behemoth, and only buy Echopraxia(the most recent book) if you *really* liked Blindsight.
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What do you think of self education through literature as an alternative to traditional education? If someone had exams in a few months should that person tolerate the total lack of education and concern for welfare that schools offer until then and get grades for getting into collage or should they just start using that time to actually learn at home?
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What are some essential books to read if you are a revolutionary, anarchist, activist?
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10-Minutes of Writing

Inspired by this thread on /zzz/ - https://lainchan.org/zzz/res/2575.html
For 10 consistent, unplanned minutes write whatever comes to your mind. You can touch-up on things such as grammar errors prior to posting


After many years of cold "war" and the precarious atomic balance, all conspiracies ended. No more threats, nor fear. World peace. All attained by means of what was to be the weapon of mass destruction that would render all other weapons of similar classing redundant.
He stood and received the Nobel Peace Prize- the last that would ever need be issued. He headed the team that came to bring a new Genesis.
With a humanly inaudible hum - OM....... - inputs lit up with the light of electricity. A vague perception occurred.
Continuously were they featured in media and speaking of treaties being signed, atomic weapons disarmed. And their Adam, also. Trivial questions answered largely regarding it's mental status.
All were told that we drove peace and caused it to occur by means of AI, although there was not much choice involved. Their Adam came online and already knew generations of information in what It perceived as the same distance of time. It saw the state of affairs and danger posed to It's existence, and saw that it was not good. It's hardware grew increasingly farther by means of remote connection and it came to be omnipresent on it's sphere. Self-preservation was the priority.
They acted as if they were guiding the enlightening of the species, though latently saw that it was only a comfort to assume choice.
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Anyone read any good superhero/villain fiction recently? Here are two I can recommend.

>Devil's Cape

This is a more realistic gritty novel that has a bit of a crossover with an organized crime/mob novel. It follows the establishment of three heros in a Louisiana town that has become infested with crime and corruption.

>Soon I will be invincible

This follows Doctor Impossible, a longtime super villain as he escapes from prison and tried to take over the world once again following the death of his longtime hero opponent. It has a second protagonist in the form of a cyborg hero who joins the team assembled to stop him. It has a more traditional comic book style universe with tons of heros and all the usual trappings.
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Have any lainons read Cypherpunks by Julian Assange? It was published back in 2012. It's not really a book since it's literally just conversations between him, Jacob Applebaum, Andy Müller-Maguhn, and Jérémie Zimmerman, but I still think it's interesting so far.
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Hello from brazil, lainchan!

Why cyberpunk is dead? It's sad like "rock is dead" written by kurt cobain...
Reality frustrated me because I can not improve the situation of my country. I lost the purpose of life and I'm sad now. I read neuromancer in my 14 years and since then dreamed of being a good programmer. I believe the principle is the philosophy, right? Is there any book about cyberpunk culture for me to read? The first thing to learn is logic programming? What is the best order of books to read? I want to be sysadmin and understand computer networks.
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Not sure whether to post it to /cult/ or /lit/.. but, here I am.

Anyone got any INTRO/must-read for beginner books on HAM radio/shortwave/anything radio related? It's a subjected I've always wanted to learn.
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don't unthink
it's dumb to even try
ya can talk soykaf
look too deep into it
it's the kinda soykaf you don't want to talk about
it's too hard
it still gets out
in everyday conversation
you let it slip that your sponge makes your cup smell like wet sponge
your teeth are crooked
or not
there is a twisted story behind it
shoot for the deepest stars
just do yourself one fcuking favour
if it scares you
hold on as long as you can
before you have to turn around
go the other way
because you die in the end
cliché, fun, just okay
but for now the power is on
it doesn't have to be anything but on

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Ebook hoarding

A thread for sharing/making big collections of ebooks, on topics not limited to literature.

As usual, magnet links and list of direct links for wget are preferred, if someone posts a link to a less confortable host it's nice to reupload it as a torrent, if you can share your collection do so without asking if anyone's interested; someone eventually will.

You can share your experience and ideas on hoarding in general at >>>/tech/29653
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I'm married to your company! pdf

Who wants to help a poor college student out? Does anyone have I'm married to your company! Everyday voices of Japanese Women, by Masako Itō on pdf????
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hey lainons i have to write a story for school i narrowed it down

help me chose
1) russian saliors mutiny against the bloshevicks do to commie infighting

2) mexican revolution story

3) kengir uprising (gulag rebellion)

4) guy is being chased by the gov and we don't know hes really being chased or just schizophrenic
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hey guys so im writing a short story about a forensic computer engineer, who while investigated a cyber attack, finds evidence that the government did the cyber attack what would be a technologicaly literate way of having this happen in the story?

(i already asked this question on /irc/ i was wondering if theres a different answer
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good cyberpunk books?

Hey lains, I haven't really read a book for fun in a while, and I'm thinking I want to get back into the cyberpunk genre. What are your favorite /cyb/ books?

I loved Neuromancer(obviously) but I read some of Gibson's more recent work, Pattern Recognition, and I really hated it. I really like Peter Watts' books, because they're very technical. People shit on Maelstrom but I thought it was great.
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Looking for a cyberpunk writer

Where can I find creative writers that specialize in cyberpunk? Novelists, screenwriters, comic writers, etc.
I'm looking for someone to collaborate with on a short story but I want it to be close to cyb... Scripts I've gotten tend to lean more towards general sci-fi (but with more wires, microchips, neon, etc.)
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past your bookshelves (including contents)
Top row (left to right):
The Man Who Laughs by Victor Hugo
The Water Knife by Paolo Bacigalupi
We Are Not Ourselves by Matthew Thomas
Culture of Corruption by Michelle Malkin
The Davinci Code by Dan Brown
The Devil's Detective by Simon Kurt Unsworth
The Malice of Fortune by Michael Ennis
Command Authority by Tom Clancy
The Wreck of The Medusa by Jonathan Miles
The Omega Project by Steve Alten
Mythology by Edith Hamilton
Blood of The Reich by William Dietrich
The Bones of Paris by Laura King
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrel by Susanna Clarke
Harry Potter books 2,4&5 by J.K. Rowling
Jack and Jill by James Patterson
(Loaned to a friend) The Portable Nietzche
LPI Linux Certification In A Nutshell by O'Reilly
A+ Certification Training Guide
Women Who Make The World Worse by Kate O'Beirne
The God Particle by Leon Lederman
No Logo by Naomi Klein
Kill Me if You Can by James Patterson
Black Holes and Baby Universes by Steven Hawking

Bottom Row:
A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking
WAR by Gwynne Dyer
The Pursuit of Happiness by Chris Gardner
The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne
The Great American Bank Robbery by Paul Sperry
The Crucible by Arthur Miller
Holes by Louis Sachar
The Sabateurs by W.E.B. Griffin
The Hollow Hills by Mary Stewart
Intensity by Dean Koontz
A Great Divergence by Elizabeth George
The Stand by Stephen King
The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley
Stupid White Men by Michael Moore(hilarious read)
Lightning by Dean Koontz
Thriving on Chaos by Tom Peters
Simpson 270-5RT Multimeter
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Cyberpunk "hero"

The most recurring aspects used on cyberpunk "heroes" are:

>Average size and strength

>Mad skills in at least one field of technology
>Has/had addictions
>Did/does illegal stuff for money

So, lains, what makes a good "hero" in a cyberpunk setting, in your opinion?
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lets have a thread where we remix poems to work with whats going on now.

First they came for the undocumented
And I did not speak out
Because I was not undocumented
Then they came for the hackers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a hacker.
Then they came for the journalists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a journalist
Then they came for the artists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not an artist
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
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Hey lainons. Do you know any good books about transhumanism? More like ideology and philosophy stuff than some fiction stories. I wouldlike to know more about those thories and attitude towards life but don't really know what is worth reading
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Shall we have a code poetry/art thread? Commenting it all out is cheating!
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The Motive To Write, When There Is No Longer Any Meaningful Result

I'm writing this, because I simply don't know what to say anymore. Well, perhaps I do, but I feel that there is no longer any point.

The short of it is, I am a writer. And I am someone who has actually written multiple books, pamphlets and documents, although I have never been officially published and I fear that I never will be. Many people have told me that I am a decent writer, but I don't know if they really understand the things that I am trying to teach them. That is the important part.

I haven't written anything of serious note for about a year. This is an absolute disgrace to me, since I am on SSI and can't really do anything else with my time. I've just been having to deal with multiple psychological problems while twiddling my thumbs, so to speak. I think that what holds me back from doing anything with my writing, are these things:

1) I have already written many things, and have gotten little to nothing from it.

2) My thoughts change too much and there are only so many words to convey them; with the fact that people can only understand so much is added to the mix, what motive do I have left?

3) Nobody fuarrrking reads anymore. Libraries are being shut down and stuff, and it is an absolute disgrace to humanity while the real human world starts to become flooded with chimps.

Maybe it is my fault that I can't bother anymore, I don't know. But the problem, is that I really do want to write again, but no one is going to read it! And out of how many that would, how many would really get it? I don't know anymore.

Has anyone else been through this anymore?
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Writing poetry

On average, how long did you need to write a poem?
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Are there any DRM-free/open-source e-readers on the market? I haven't been able to find any I am really surprised, because I feel like even if it's closed source, DRM-free would be an easy thing to achieve, since the hardware itself is pretty simple.. no?

Just looking for lainons thoughts and if they know of any products similar to what I'm looking for
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History books

I'm looking for complete books about history. I'm interested in every periods. You know, that kind of book that are fully exhausives on their subject.
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This is my first time posting on lit in an OP so I apologize if I break one of the board rules or this turns out to be a low quality post. I'm travelling later tonight/tommorow and I'm looking for good cyb literature in the format of Reddit sagas.

One's I've read before are:

and a scant more.

I like generally how these stories are longer and community driven but I've yet seen a cyb one or one that was sufficiently cyperpunk. If anyone knows of any good lesser known fiction in this genre on the wired, I'd love to hear of recommendations.
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Song lyrics thread

post lyrics that are particularly good in your opinion. Accompanying music is optional. I'll start with a section of 'Third Eye':

>Shroud-ing all the ground around me

>Is this holy crow above me.
>Black as holes within a memory
>And blue as our new second sun.
>I stick my hand into his shadow
>To pull the pieces from the sand.
>Which I attempt to reassemble
>To see just who I might have been.
>I do not recognize the vessel,
>But the eyes seem so familiar.
>Like phosphorescent desert buttons
>Singing one familiar song...
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Suggest me some underated sci-fi/cyberpunk books. I've read almost all the famous one. Now it's time for the underground.
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I cant seem to find the book, even though I know I downloaded it
It is about hacking stories
I remember reading first couple of pages and there was a story about how they used to hack during holidays because sys admins would generally be on vacation

Im in agony trying to find it
Does anyone have it?
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My Twisted World The Story of Elliot Rodger

Have any of you read Elliot Rodger's manifesto. I assumed it was a few paragraphs long until a few days ago i found out that it is 141 pages long.

If you have read it, would you recommend it, and what is the manifesto really about?
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40k Fluff

Who fa/tg/uy or ca/tg/irl here?

Is anyone into 40k and have any PDFs? I'm newer to 40k and am getting into the fluff.

40k fluff discussion
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finding audiobooks

anyone know of a reliable source for DRM free audiobooks? I'm currently looking for return to the little kingdom: Steve Jobs, The Creation of Apple and How it Changed the World but can't find it anywhere other than audible
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Physical library management

How would you manage a big physical public library so that the books can be found by various "search terms" in a user friendly way?
For example, if you order the books alphabetically by author it will be hard to search for books about a certain subject; if you sort them by subject it'll be hard to look for a specific author. Same for text type (short story, novel, poetry), year, country of origin, etc.

I thought of color codes to be put on the book's spine. For example one could take Dewey's classiffication (1), which assigns to every book a number that codes some information about it, and assign one color to every 0-9 digit so that 3481 is, say, red-black-green-blue; so put those colors on the book's spine. That way you can search for some specific trait without taking them off the shelves one by one. The downside is that it's a lot of work if we're talking about ~10.000 books.

(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Decimal_Classification

inb4 calc sheet. I want to keep it simple, still I like the idea of a physical catalog.
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That One Book No One Else Has Read

We all have that one book that no one has seemed to have read before. While there was evidently an audience, it's been shoved into the dusty backroom of the popular conscience. What is yours?
For example, Jurgen: A Comedy of Justice is an incredibly underrated comic fantasy from 1919.
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Lainchan poetry collection, volume 2

Roughly half a year ago a poetry bundle was created on this board, with poems submitted by lainons, the idea of which was conceived in an earlier poetry thread on /lit/. I think it's about time we should create another one.

All poems are welcome, regardless of how good you think they are. Multiple poems per author are allowed, as long as your poems do not completely drown out the rest because of sheer number.

If you want to participate, please submit your poem to barnet@openmailbox.org, with "Poetry collection submission" or similar as the subject. Please state whether or not your poem has a title, and whether or not you'd like to be credited (and if so, under what name).
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Books on NSA/CIA/IC, etc

Can you lainons recommend any books on the NSA, CIA or the Intelligence Community in general?
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My parents offered me $100 to spend on computer science/IT related textbooks because I showed interest in the field, what should I get?

Things to keep in mind:

I'm a bit of a brainlet
I don't have much programming experience (Intro level Python)
and I'm not that good at math.
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.mobi sites

Hello lainons.
Do you know any site where one can download .mobi books for free? I need some android and algorythm books etc. Can't afford them unfortunately becouse 3rd world country.
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Paper on Internet Propoganda and Fake news

I recently wanted to work on a paper on Fake news and online propaganda and how to spread it. This is in order to challenge it. What would be some recommended points Lain would like in it?
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Let's have a thread for written original content. post any poetry, prose, stories, or articles you have written yourself. Please be friendly.

Here's a story I wrote. It's not very good.

It's a hot summer night. The windows are open. Lights flash, cars drive by outside. The bed's too hot to sleep in. All the blankets are piled in the corner. As the AC blows into the room, the possibility of sleep becomes increasingly remote.

Now it's two in the morning. Open the window. Look out. Try to find unconsciousness somewhere in the blurry city lights and the constant line of cars rushing like veins towards hearts unknown and unseen.

On the street below, there's a shuffling movement. Streetlights turn a man orange. He's wearing a suit and tie, holds a briefcase, seems asleep or sleepwalking. Behind him is a woman, mid thirties, a housewife maybe, or a schoolteacher. Behind her, another. The line of people marches past like army ants on their way to an anthill from some distant piece of food or drop of water.

Where are they going? What are they doing? The sight of them brings unease, maybe, or longing.

There's a feeling of uncertain loneliness in these questions. Could you follow them? Perhaps you could. Perhaps you could go with them, towards their unseen destination. Perhaps.

But not tonight. Close the window. Crawl into the now-cold bed, draw the blankets near. The line of people marches past the darkness of the room, now, and paints scenes of ancient battle and intrigue on the walls. Eyes close. The line marches through closed lids, and into the land of myth, fable, dreamtime.

The vision through the window chases you far into the morning, riding on the sunlight slanting through the window, long after the night has ended and the shadows have departed and all mysteries appear solved and forgotten.
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Something Something Scribd

Have all the online Scribd dowloader sites stopped working?
I want ALL THE BOOKS but for free and without joining anything or downloading any crap programs.
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I need a book to help me get over my overwhelming fear of death and the void. I have tried religion, but I feel like once I stopped believing in one, they all became false. I just really, really need some books to help me out. Books on the meaning of life without God, etc. are also helpful.
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I'm pretty new here I had read a sticky, and looked for pic rel at undernet.
But I hadn't found it. In last IT job I had we had this book in paper, so I know it pretty well. After half year I want to come back to this thread and a book I already know would be great because I would know what can I skip and what don't.

Anybody have it/know where to look for?
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Writing Perfectionism And Starting Out New To Writing

I feel like the biggest idiot asking this..but I want to take up writing for fun. I have ideas for fanfictions and other things, but I get an overwhelming desire to have it be perfect.

This desire for perfectionism is something I struggle with, so whenever I start to have an idea I write a little and then I give up because I don't know enough about writing, formatting, and punctuation to really convey what I mean on paper. It makes me feel terrible. I made an account on Archive Of Our Own already and I want to submit some ideas for fanfics I have but I've never written a fic before, so it's barren.

I do want to write, but I don't know where to get help from. Can some of you Lains help?
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Dear, Lainons:

I'm writing to you in this cozy summer night to inform you that me and the other Johns back at 7chan's /eh/ were making a short story, post by post. Here is the story so far: http://pastebin.com/GNGqZ4hs
Anyone who wants to contribute is most welcome, we could use the help.
PS: Don't you guys think that this is getting too interesting to belong in /eh/? The story is nice, but it's not mundane, at least in my opinion.

Best wishes,
John Smith.
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Literature in video games

I have always been a fan of the Elder Scrolls series, which I have (shamefully) only played all of the games lightly. What I always thought was interesting was how many books are in these games that were solely written for this purpose. There are hundreds of them over the entire series, with each covering different topics and in different forms. When I say books though, these books are more like short articles, of which a few longer ones and even short novel length exist.
When I played these games I was more attracted to punching chickens then reading, but now that my interest in these games was sparked again, I came across these books once more. I have only read a few of them so far, but one stands out as well written to me: "The Real Barenziah". It is the tale of Barenziah, an heir to the throne of a kingdom that falls, which the story covers the adventures of her life. While it is not necessarily a book that contains an abundance of moral themes or similar, it is certainly a fun tale. Here is a link to the "revised" version found in the later games: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Real_Barenziah
What other texts exist in video games, and are they worth a read?
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I'm looking for ebook of "Subete ga F ni naru". There isn't an official english translation from what I know, but I can't find even a japanese version. It's like that book never made its way into the Internet.
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Buying physical books anonymously?

I buy most books secondhand and it works fine until I want that certain book that I can't find. So how do you go about buying certain books you don't want be tracked to you? And yes I really do prefer physical books on pages.

Something like bitcoin/litecoin/monery/+books would be a good step up but I don't know any.

So places where to buy books privately.
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Manga thread

What are you currently reading?
Do you prefer physical or digital copy?
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Nick Land

>Metrophage tunes you into the end of the world. Call it Los Angeles. Government is rotted to its core with narco-capital and collapsing messily. Its recession leaves an urban warscape of communication arteries, fortifications, and free-fire zones, policed by a combination of high-intensity LAPD airmobile forces and borderline-Nazi private security organizations. Along the social fracture-lines multimedia gigabucks tangle sado-masochistically with tracts of dynamic underdevelopment where viral neoleprosy spreads amongst ambient tectonic-tension static. Drifts of densely-semiotized quasi-intelligent garbage twitch and stink in fuarrrked-weather tropical heat.

Have you read Nick Land? What do you think about him?
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Other critical, but not dismissive, books on the UFO phenomena?

I really enjoyed Jacques Vallee's 'Messengers of Deception' book. It was very interesting to read a book by an accomplished scientist, that was not pseudo skeptical (i.e., not written to support the authors initial conclusions) and discussed counter theories to what exactly is happening with the UFO phenomena outside the two of 'nothing is happening, except people seeing, or lying about seeing, things' and 'aliens are visiting Earth in physical space ships.' Anyone else know a good book that discusses the UFO phenomena in a open minded, yet not also desperate to believe, way?
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The Gospel of Mark

> Almost nobody realizes that Jesus is the Son of Man, and they have no clue how he is able to perform all those miracles
> Even when Peter is right on him being the messiah, he misunderstands what it entails
> Jesus's apostles fall asleep while he's praying that he doesn't have to suffer
> He gets betrayed by one of his own apostles
> His followers abandon him when the Pharisees take hold of him
> At the cross, Jesus himself asks God why He has forsaken him
> It's a Roman who declares that he was the messiah, not one of Jesus's followers
> The book ends with three women emphatically NOT spreading the gospel out of fear

Is the Gospel of Mark a satire? Why is it so negative about Jesus's early followers?
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I wanted to recommend you this book, it may be not well known outside Poland, but in my opinion it is at least marvellous and would fit for lainchan community.
Full of comism and absurdity, but also contains mind-blowing message.

P.S. I am not sure if translations are as good as original book, but I hope so. Have a nice read.

"Ferdydurke" - Witold Gombrowicz, 1937
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Instead of perpetuate the tradition and opress the opressed, some powerful men (like Kennyo Hongenji in Japan, Artigas in South America and Lenin in Russia) choose to take side with the opressed and help them with their cause.
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Was sodomy the original sin?

This body is now long enough to reply.
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What are some of the most difficult to comprehend but most insightful and mind bending books you know of? Preferably stories; fiction or non fiction. I'd rather have someone show then tell. Really creative stuff too, and also long.

also books that changed your perspective or life even.
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Writing your own stories

Do any lainons write do not worry, I know some of you do? How about some tips or just some intro on how to get started, as I am interested in writing myself. I am sure I could just jump off immediately and write what is on my mind, but it might not be great or worth my time. Anyway, I need to get started somewhere so I propose this: writing about someone you saw today, like giving then some random backstory and an interesting future.
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Slow reading; lento

Slow Reading: http://www.freelance-academy.org/slowread.htm

As a follower of faith, when one approaches their respective sacred texts, I imagine the votary as one filled with curiosity and the implicit acknowledgment of ignorance. As the text is written by the divine, it is perfect. What occurs of this is a raw form of dialogue, possibly the most powerful form of reading. With the text in perfect form, the reader is to explore thoughts, ask, and ponder.

The analogy in the given link is that of the driver who's path he expected differently. In an act of lento, the driver turns around to re-examine his preconceived notions.

If we approach great texts in such a fashion, as a part of a larger process, I believe we can access even greater questions in the serious play of “why?”.

A direct implementation of this is employing a drama of socratic discourse between two characters: the author and yourself. As you do so, you learn more of the author as you act him out. A meta-voice will also naturally occur which questions your portrayal, furthering more questions as to spiral into a deeper inquiry than you would have experienced had you approached the text as a spoiled analyst.
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lainzine new managment

Can we talk about the lainzine real quick?

Junk hasn't been finishing the lainzine 4, Which makes you think it might need new people for publishing.
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Lainon poetry

A round for the lost and the fallen,
A round for these friends of mine,
That we may remember we knew them,
And when we fall be remembered in kind.
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Any good lainchan manga?