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Every literature board has a bump while reading thread.

Currently reading:
-New Testament
-The Wealth of Nations (book V)
-Gravity's Rainbow



I tried to read Gravity's Rainbow but got derailed on page 21 where there's a whole block of text describing objects on a desk. Maybe a shiny insect distracted me or something, but I haven't got the patience to read about paperclips.

Please let me know what it's like and I might read on


You need some decent amount of knowledge of World War II, I suggest reading the first couple volumes of Churchill's recount. I'm glad I did, anyway, there are so many references to obscure machinery and plenipotentiaries that it's mind boggling.



Ty for the suggestion. Thematically, is there much going on in Gravity's Rainbow? I have a decent understanding of WW2 but can one enjoy the story on a meaningful level without a deeper understanding of the military paraphernalia?


Certainly. It's a work of historical fiction, but it's largely a test to see if you can piece the jigsaw puzzle together… not easy to do. He writes like an effervescent ADD-addled child, but I feel some of the parts are beautifully put together and under the surface mean something truly interesting and tie in wonderfully. It's anecdotal, all the different parts with their own theme.



Can you perhaps compare it to Slaughterhouse 5?


I've heard of that book, I've never read anything by Vonnegut though. What's he like?



Quite postmodern but not to the extent where he can't be bothered to craft a good story. I enjoyed Slaughterhouse 5 a lot - it's a short, sharp and very effecting read. The alternate title, addressed in the book, is The Children's Crusade and I think this is a much more appropriate title. A book on the futility of war and on how life-after-war, or life in general, is a mess of absurd events. He bleeds historic fiction and sci-fi together very nicely. I haven't read anything else by him, but he can drop a mean quote:

“I thought scientists were going to find out exactly how everything worked, and then make it work better. I fully expected that by the time I was twenty-one, some scientist, maybe my brother, would have taken a color photograph of God Almighty—and sold it to Popular Mechanics magazine. Scientific truth was going to make us so happy and comfortable. What actually happened when I was twenty-one was that we dropped scientific truth on Hiroshima.”


Oh, wonderful quote. Yes that seems to be the general rhetoric Pynchon uses towards science as well, but details the application of human emotional futility in the midst of war as a battle between two sides, the ultimate Pavlov(mentions him a lot)ian paradox.


currently reading
snow crash
a portrait of the artist as a young man
rereading clockwork orange


Currently reading All Quiet on the Western Front because I'm a pleb that has just started getting into literature. Read a few chapters today, I'll probably finish it tomorrow.


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Invisible cities


Beginners Guide to Jungian Psychology
Who Stole Feminism

and about 5 different series of weeb manga trash


I got Rope Burns: Stories from the Corner as a gift from my father. It's a good book, and way better than the mad magazines he usually gets me.


currently reading
the rebel - camus
the plague - camus
existentialism for beginners
colorless tsukuru tazaki and his years of pilgrimage - murakami
also rereading clockwork orange thanks anon


Currently reading Jane Eyre on my e-reader.


Invisible Cities
Snow Crash


Just read "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich," going to read Camus's "The Stranger" next.


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The high crusade.


Journey to the West. Quite funny, though a bit repetitive.


-rereading some Poe stuff bc Halloween
-Kafka's The Metamorphosis
-The Great Gatsby


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-A Clockwork Orange
-Short stories by Ray Bradbury


>Kafka's The Metamorphosis
I liked that one, but I couldn't quite tell if it was supposed to be a metaphor of some sort or just an exercise in the absurd.

I'm reading the Iliad, and I intend to read the Odyssey shortly after.


After Dark - Haruki Murakami. First half is ok, just your average story or so it seems. Then the TV kicks in. Dern Japanese shows.



Guns, Germs, Steel

Passion and Reason; Making sense of our emotions

Shorts by James Tiptree Jr.


Mao's Red Book
Welcome to the NHK
Rich Christians in the Age of Hunger

Thank god for living at the end of the bus line. I always manage to get a seat, so I can read.

>A Clockwork Orange
Wait till you get to the end. The "lost chapter" really does tie it all together. I can't believe that they wanted to remove it.


Read it yesterday and couldn't agree more, possibly one of the best endings I've ever read. Removing it means castrating the whole novel imo. "More appealing to U.S. audiences", jeez.

>Mao's Red Book

Always wanted to read it, thanks for reminding me.

you all have wonderful taste btw <3


- House of Leaves

It's weird, but I like it.

>Short stories by Ray Bradbury
I've only read Fahrenheit 451, but quite liked it. How do his other stories compare?


I haven't read that many yet, but they're quite good - Bradbury is great at creating full SF-scenarios in ten to fifteen pages or so, really impressive. Very philosophical as well.


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Telekommunist Manifesto

It's about "Peer-to-Peer Communism" and "Client-Server Capitalism".



Try out The Illustrated Man when you get the chance. It's more short stories, and they're really, really, good.


He made me go "wtf Ray" a couple times in his early works.
For example in The October Country (1955) he sets you up in a cemetery, takes you deep into the setting and then says something like "some headstones were so big that it looked like someone had a bed accident and took the matress outside".


>Currently reading:
- The Golem, Gustav Meyrink

Picked this one up yesterday. I'm ~50 pages in, and I really like it so far. It's about people in the Prague Jewish ghetto, focussing on one character who doesn't quite seem mentally all there (weird dreams, appears to have some sort of sleep paralysis, out of body experiences), and the "Golem" returns once every generation in a period of widespread stress, acting as a harbinger of change and crisis.

- Civil War Stories, Ambrose Bierce

A collection of short stories inspired by the American Civil War. They're all ok, but not my usual fare.

- House of Leaves, Mark Z. Danielewski

Does this need any introduction? Ostensibly a book about a fictional (both here and in-universe) documentary called "The Navidson Record", it blurs the line between what is real and what isn't, and the narrator/editor gradually descends into madness with increasingly lengthy and bizarre footnotes, and the typesetting starts to completely fall apart. It's tough going, but a very fun read.


I just read Animal Farm some days ago - the final was pretty good, but i wasnt used to books where the plot does not much focus on characters, except for Boxer and the mains pigs - it is even sadder to think it is a representation.

Im going for Origins of Totalitarianism now.


I've just finished reading The Causal Angel by Hannu Rajaniemi.

It was pretty good, would recommend.


I read the Harry Potter series for the first time over Christmas Break. They seemed pretty good, I would recommend them. I don't see how people can compare them to directly to the Lord of the Rings, though. They are different types of fantasy.


I just finished reading Frankenstein, it was good, especially looking at some of the themes from a contemporary perspective. Now I want to rewrite an older thing I wrote.
I think those comparisons are because folks didn't read everything they wanted to.


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I've finished The Steppe and am currently reading The Duel (I'm going to finish it up right after I submit this).
Both contained in pic related.


The Whisperer in Darkness.
I read it little by little while commuting.


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didn't like 20 thousand leagues under the sea, but this one has been fun so far.


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> Economics: The User's Guide
Pretty good, would recommend.


Just finished Prometheus Rising.
It's fun reading predictions about life longevity pills in 2005.


portrait of the artist as a young man, James Joyce
loving the stream of conscious style of the piece. Think it's a very good image of what Joyce's early life was like.


Just started reading the Hunger Games series. Figured I might as well, so I can know what all these darned kids are talking about.

Y'know, back in my day, like five years ago, good books were ones that were written in the 20th century and before, and all of the bests books were from the 1960s and before!


>Y'know, back in my day, like five years ago, good books were ones that were written in the 20th century and before, and all of the bests books were from the 1960s and before!
^This. I've read a good amount of the bestselling, "amazing" books of this modern age and I've always found the "ancient" classics far superior and preferable. Not saying newer books aren't of worth, though-for the most part- they're not nearly as good as are the classics.


eh, I've been there before but I think I'd disagree now. We give older works too much credit these days - some of my favorite writing is from the 20th and 21st centuries, mostly because that's when scifi and innovative narration got big. Give it another 10 years and the "nothing is good after 1960s" folks will be the "nothing is good after 1970s" folks instead.


> Greg Egan: Quarantine
fuarrrking awesome hard science fiction.


>We give older works too much credit these days
I disagree. See below.

>"Nothing is good after 1960s" folks will be the "nothing is good after 1970s" folks instead.

I am >>778 . I did not literally mean that all the best books are from then. You didn't find the "back in my day, like five years ago" part as being slightly ridiculous? There are a good amount of works that are written nowadays that are good. I would say, though, that time clears things up. That mediocre garbage people read and say that it is the best thing ever? It will be gone in a few decades; barely read. Now, the good and great books from this time frame will be remembered and still read.

What I am trying to say is, time is like a filter for books. Gradually, the lesser books fall away, and only the best remain. That is why older books seem better. Not because they ARE better, but because you can usually be assured that they are quality reads, whether for pleasure, information, etc. Time washes away what is weak, and leaves the strong.

In 50 years, the Hunger Games will be slightly read, but Harry Potter will still be popular, as will the Lord of the Rings (and I am hoping that the Ranger's Apprentice series will be popular; they are good.) I hope that clears things up.

Oh, and I finished the first book in the Hunger Game series. It seemed good, but not brilliant. I would say that it is popular because of good writing meets mediocre story = movie + $$$


oh, I completely understand the time thing, I was also making a joke, cuz I like to fuarrrk with some of those literary elitists you hear about judging everything new.

I've heard the hunger games movie is better than the book, but I haven't actually read hunger games yet so I can't make that comparison.

Back on topic, I've been delving into House of Leaves lately - it's got some interesting stuff going on, I gotta say.


> What I am trying to say is, time is like a filter for books. Gradually, the lesser books fall away, and only the best remain.
It is interesting how many of unappreciated good books were lost. I am sure there were some.


>House of Leaves
Currently rereading that - I read the German translation four years ago (Krautfag), now I'm working my way through the original text. I forgot how much I love the minotaur part.


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Currently reading The Raw Shark Texts

up next might be Don Quixote or something


Right now:
Men without women - Haruki Murakami
Crime & Punishment - Dostoyevski
aaand rerereading Johnny the homicidal Maniac - Johnen Vasquez (I don't know if that one really counts)


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Finally reading The Diamond Age and it's great so far.

I enjoyed what I've read of Stephenson far more than I enjoyed what I've read of Gibson (and I certainly enjoyed Gibson).


A guy at my work has told me how good Stephenson is, I have Snow Crash in my backlog to read soonish.


The Metamorphosis, Kafka
It's been pretty good so far. Fun to analyze.


-Kokoro by Natsume Soseki
It's great.


Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Just started but it's quite entertaining so far.


On a whim, I read Balzac's 1835 Le Père Goriot. Extremely enjoyable and engaging. I read it at the library, but chanced upon a nice used hardback later. Shows an interesting view of Parisian society, contrasting the upper and lower classes, and is written with a much wit and charm.

I liked this passage: http://www.literaturepage.com/read/balzac-father-goriot-48.html


Johnen is continuing the Invader Zim comic series I feel like hes slowly breaking and going to sell out.

Finished Brave new World
Probably For Whom The Bell Tolls is up next
Skimmed Through the Juliette society just to see what a book written by a porn star was like


Consider reading Brave New World Revisited.


Well, maybe it won't be that bad, I mean he had like 2 more seasons already planned. If they make them into a comic, I'd buy it.

Also >>906 I've never heard of that, thanks for the tip.


Just started reading: The Name of the Rose

I am clearly obsessed with labyrinths so why wasn't I told about this book?
Also magical realism in a 14th century monastery.

Translating the Latin very slowly and cursing myself once again for not being born into a catholic family.


Reading Great Expectations right now.

It's much more entertaining than I remember it being in high school. But it's not exactly a page turner either.


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I just read that book for the first time a few weeks ago. Really, really enjoyed it. Has a lot of imagery that sticks in my head (Miss Havisham's antics, Wemmick's place, the swamps and prison ships, London's grimey atmosphere) and fascinating characters. Some parts are slow, but I couldn't put it down for several large chunks of it.


Reading Great expectations as well.


Walter John Williams: Voice of the Whirlwind

It's a soft scifi work and the story contains aliens, but I like it very much so far, great atmosphere and non-silly non-lame story despite a reincarnated protagonist with missing memories. Core cyberpunk of course.


Right now I'm reading:
- Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
- Sternstunden by Wolfang Seidel (Basically a book about the history of cartography and geography)


Stanlislaw Lem - The Cyberiad
Robot fairy tales, what's not to love?


I am reading Brisingr currently.


The Sound of Waves by Mishima

It's a lot more str8forward than Golden Pavilion/Confessions of a Mask

His nature descriptions are on point
Unfortunately, the story gives me feels


A book about Greco-Roman mysteries. It's not what I expected, I thought it was going more 'pop-science like' instead it was made for students who already know about this stuff because it's a collection of texts with a comment. I don't mind it though, it's still interesting.


The Gulag Archipelago
The Stranger


the 36 stratagems reinterpreted by peter taylor


Just finished The Complete works of H. P. Lovecraft
Reading Asimov's Foundation Trilogy(currently Foundation and Empire)
Rereading Homeland by Cory Doctorow
Just started The Great Gatsby


Reading "Six Days War"

Pretty nice book, still on the first section (not chapter)


Is it about Israel?


Just finished reading the endless war, a fantastic sci fi book. Now I'm gonna read the Dispossessed and the Manga Guide to the Universe


Currently reading Midnight's Children, Kafka By the Shore, The Cathedral and the Bazaar, and a bit of The Tain and the Poetic Edda every once in a while.


Reading House of Leaves, I got to the point where I am now a few years ago but stopped.
I'm really enjoying the Navidson Record plot, but I don't really like the old man's digressions and sometimes I just skip entire pages of the edgelord's crazy soykaf. It's not a really enjoyable read at times but it's really good when it is and I keep reading for those moments.


Currently reading: The Count of Monte Cristo, The Design of Everyday Things.

Count of Monte Cristo is really good. I'd somehow managed to go into it without much prior knowledge of the plot, and it's really gripping me. Only got a hundred or so pages left now, everything is wrapping up and, oh!, what a wrap-up.

The Design of Everyday Things is a good read, it's making me much more conscious of interfaces I come across in my day-to-day life. Whilst the title says "everyday things", it's all fairly generic and applicable to software as well (in fact, software examples and anecdotes are frequent).

Next up: Flowers for Algernon, or Fall of the Roman Republic.

I've decided I like having one fiction and one non-fiction book on the go at the same time.


I'm reading Neuromancer. I really like Gibson's style but I find it sort of hard to follow sometimes, not being a native english speaker and everything.


I personally preferred the later books in the sprawl trilogy. Count Zero was my favorite, although the jumping between characters was slightly jarring, at first.

I just got done reading the Takeshi Kovacs series of novels. They're pretty good, less cyberpunk, and more sci-fi, although the last book brings in quite a few cyberpunk elements. His sex scenes feel a little crammed in, but they're short. I probably would have enjoyed them more if I weren't reading on the bus. I just wish there were more books, to be honest. I personally liked the last book, best. The second had a great ending, though, and the first one is pretty nice, as an introduction to the world. A lot of neat ideas in those books.

Right now I'm reading Dune, for fun, and "The Open Secret", by Lesslie Newbigin, for my book club.


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Finally knocked this one off the reading list. It was surprisingly engrossing, not what I expected.


Got High-Rise by J G Ballard lined up at the moment, along with some technical books. Might re-read some stuff on my bookshelf after that.


Reading The Wind-up Bird Chronicle

Been a slow read, but I've enjoyed it all so far. Finally about 50 pages from the end.


I re-read these for the first time in about 7 years and was really impressed with how elegant the style is and how it synergises with the themes of the novels. I find Neuromancer a bit juvenile but Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive are top lit snob tier imo


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Nice. How's The Gulag Archipelago? Read a bit of Solzhy but not that yet.

Myself, I'm reading this glorious fuarrrking thing.
It's fantastic. Completely fantastic.
I find that a good way of explaining how that is is contrasting it with, say, Vonnegut, since both are thought of as essentially satiric dark comedic drama. Well, this is a lot easier to take seriously. There's less of a feeling of insignificance; there's less impotence and powerlessness in the protagonist. But it still hits hard, feels absolutely real in the sense that dying a day away from being the first in your family to graduate college then getting run over by a bus is real. Its language is elegant then crude in the best way, then unimaginably brutal as you get shelled and it switches to imagery of being swallowed by flame, becoming chaotic, unseeing, unfeeling nothing flung about like trash beside the dead flesh of your comrades.

.. It's really good, basically.


It's a metaphor.

Him turning into a bug is him becoming a shut in who feels alienated.


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The Essential Difference: Men, Women and the Extreme Male Brain - Simon Baron-Cohen

The Martian - Andy Weir


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Diary notes from Ernst Jünger. I couldn't ask for something better, as it blend personal thoughts, dreams report, gardening tips, opinions on literature, botanical and zoological research logs and chronicles from the end of the Third Reich by a man who's a war hero and a highly intelligent and sensible man and writer.


struggling through Neal Stephensons' Reamde


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every month till i drop dead


I'm on the last 10 pages of Das Schloss, it's been good, as is all of Kafka's work, but I don't know how I feel about including his notes as a 'final chapter' of sorts. It does nothing but introduce another layer of uncertainty to the previous events.

I'll probably start The Illiad later today; I've had it and The Odyssey sitting on my shelf, waiting to be read, for over a year now.


Red Sorghum-Mo Yan
for a class, but I can't read more than a few pages at a time. The most disturbing book I have read. Even Blood Meridian only had me this way in some scenes.

Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
Liking the language, but I feel like the Catholic guilt is rubbing off so I only read in snippets.


Currently reading a compilation of Kierkegaard's works, and Amusing Ourselves to Death.

Former is great if you're and existentialist and/or a Christian, and is good for understanding a philosophical point of view anyway.

The latter is an incredibly good discourse on the decline of society due to modern entertainment; in other words, that Huxley was right.


Just finished reading As I Lay Dying, about to start The Stranger

As I Lay Dying was very interesting, especially once they had been on the journey a few days and everyone's internal thought process started getting more and more incoherent and difficult to understand without context. The chapters from other people's point of view (Peabody, Armstid) were placed very well and did a really good job at giving the reader an outsiders perspective on the family. Just really well written overall.

I've read The Stranger before, but it's been years, so before reading The Fall and the Plague, I'm reading it again. Loved it the first time, expect to love it again.


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Just finished "...And the Angel with Television Eyes" by John Shirley. Now starting "Street Lethal" by Steven Barnes. Thinking about re-reading the sprawl trilogy.

This is a nice board.


i have been reading Gravity's Rainbow for 10 years Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!

currently reading the baroque cycle, not /cyb/, but pretty good


Currently reading:
Debt: The First 5000 Years by David Graeber
Code: The Hidden Language of Computer Hardware and Software by Charles Petzold
Being and Nothingness by Jean-Paul Sartre
Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs

I have difficulty concentrating as a result of my depression, which I try to combat by keeping my mind occupied on different topics as I can muster up a bit of motivation to study them.
I'll read a section or two of one of these books, and then put it down as soon as I start losing interest. Thus far it's worked relatively well in keeping my mind active, but I should really start working on increasing the amount of time I can focus on any particular thing.


J-just my college textbooks right now. ;_;


Nice taste. I just started reading Nausea and SICP. Got Nineteen Eighty Four and The Stranger on my desk for when I finish


Nothing wrong with that readying intro to computer security and the fedora/red hat enterprise books for school. I'm enjoying it


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Just finished the second volume of My Struggle by Karl Ove Knausgaard. He's been called the Norwegian Proust,
I've never read Proust but I imagine them as being quite similar - he writes about his own life ("struggle") in exact detail, switching back and forth from childhood to the present day in a way that reflects the way memories pop up in your mind.

It sounds dull but the way it's written makes it riveting. You can't wait to find out what happens next, and the intimacy of sharing someone else's life and thoughts makes finding out what happens next really affecting.

Waiting for my dole cheque so I can get the next volume :B


Flat earth news

If you didn't trust mainstream news already, you will after reading this book.


Besides length, the similarities between Knausgård and Proust are almost nil both as people and as authors. Definitely worth the read though as you say.

For those who want a taste, read the last chapter of his A Time To Purpose Under Every Heaven.


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• Marcus Aurelius - Meditations
• The UNIX Haters Handbook


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Currently reading Into the Wild by John Krakauer


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-Gravity's Rainbow
-The Great Shark Hunt
-Heart of Darkness' historical appendices (Conrad's journals and such)

Recently finished all of beloved Vonnegut's novels except Galápagos, which I'll have to order online. Looking for other writers in the same vein.

I'm roughly a quarter of the way through Gravity's Rainbow and loving it, but I find it hard to keep track of all the characters without a "cast" sheet attaching faces to names. Are Pynchon's other works in similar style, and do they all have so many characters?


Currently reading Grimm's fairy tales. Who could have guessed Disney got it all so wrong?


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I'm reading Blood Music.

Description: In the tradition of the greatest cyberpunk novels, Blood Music explores the imminent destruction of mankind and the fear of mass destruction by technological advancements. The novel follows present-day events in which the fears concerning the nuclear annihilation of the world subsided after the Cold War and the fear of chemical warfare spilled over into the empty void it left behind. An amazing breakthrough in genetic engineering made by Vergil Ulam is considered too dangerous for further research, but rather than destroy his work, he injects himself with his creation and walks out of his lab, unaware of just how his actions will change the world. Author Greg Bear’s treatment of the traditional tale of scientific hubris is both suspenseful and a compelling portrait of a new intelligence emerging amongst us, irrevocably changing our world.


Finished Camus's The Stranger.
Reading McCarthy's No Country for Old Men.

I think I'll read some more Poe and Lovecraft soon. Probably The Gold Bug first, since it's about cryptography.


>Beginners Guide to Jungian Psychology
How are you liking it? I've only looked over Jungian concepts on Wikipedia but I'm planning to put books about it on my backlog.

I'm about half way through As I Lay Dying. Faulkner is incredible at capturing the country aesthetic.

currently reading:
As I Lay Dying
The Picture of Dorian Gray
A Princess of Mars
Bird By Bird (writers guide)
and re-reading Madame Bovary


ugh those books get worse and worse.
what's HoD like? I've been meaning to read that for years, but i keep forgetting....

Currently finishing reading the Earthsea Cycle, will read Lolita after that...

loved the movie so I think I'll enjoy the book. I'll put that on my list.


Just finished The King of Elfland's Daughter. It was pretty good, I think I overhyped it in my mind though, was mildly disappointed. Just started Edith Hamilton's Mythology, already enjoying it.

He really is, I need to try and read a few more of his works.


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Just started The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch.

Finished Hardboiled-Wonderland and the End of the World last night.


>Hardboiled-Wonderland and the End of the World

How was it, compared to some of his other stuff?


Recently finished Mythology, it was a pretty nice read, learned a lot.

Currently reading Trigger Warning, a short story collection by Neil Gaiman. It's comfy.


Fiction :
- Free fall (William Golding)

Non-Fiction :

Poetry :
- Various, but mostly François Villon


How is Kokoro? I only read I am a cat and it was hilarious.



Not him, but I'm also interested for an answer since I read Hardboiled..., really liked it and looking for reading another one from Murakami.


Modern operating systems - Andrew "Big writa" tanenbaum.
Neuromancer William "un-icible" Gibson(i should have finished this ages ago).


I'm reading Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said. Will start on Neuromancer next. Have 6 books coming the mail soon to read those as soon as I'm done with Neuromancer.

I'm hoping for Neuromancer to be better than Snowcrash, which I felt wasn't very cyb. Thought Stephenson's Snowcrash was overrated garbage that was readable enough to get through. It seemed as tho he abandoned the book one day and came back and completed it quickly just to sell it.

Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said is really good. Like Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, the story starts off bleh and then picks up a lot in the middle of the story. The only PKD story I read so far that starts off great and stays great to the end was A Scanner Darkly. Has anyone here read many PKD novels? Do most his stories start slow and end up great in the middle and end of the novel?


Sorry for such a late response. I really enjoyed it, but I haven't read any of his other work yet. The whole thing was really intriguing, and it all comes together really well at the end of the book.

I'm about 1/3 through Words of Radiance by Brandon Sanderson at the moment. So far it seems like a great followup to The Way of Kings, and doesn't start out nearly as slow as I thought WoK did.


I don't think that Pynchon is presenting a test of putting pieces together. More like he wants you to experience the feeling of being lost.


Just finished Blindsight and Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect.

I liked Blindsight, but Prime Intellect really fell apart after the second part.


I'm currently reading a book about a Japanese Buddhist monk named Kukai. great book for anyone who likes philosophy.Also am reading a book about nazi propaganda and film. was reading Neuromancer, but finished it.also reading Beggars in Spain for a scifi class I'm taking, I hate it so far.

anyone interested in starting a book club on here? I'd be up for setting it all up.


I'd be interested, not sure how much time I could put aside for reading. Wanna make a thread?


sure, about to go ahead and make one.


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I just ordered from a used book site:
Mona Lisa Overdrive
Count Zero
Snow Crash
The Diamond Age

I want to get through all of them by summer. I don't read books often and am pretty slow at it so hopefully this is something I can accomplish.


quick tip, try reading in bed before you sleep. you'll be amazed at the amount of material you finish.


Not the same guy but I always found reading in the day was faster. If I read a book before bed I can finish it in weeks, if I just set aside some time in the day I usually can finish it in a few days.

I suppose everyone is different.



Inherent Vice

My 2nd Pynchon, after Lot 49

I like it so far, a lot more straightforward but still fun


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Working my way through Lord of the Rings for the first time in about 15 years, currently on The Two Towers.


Finished The Great Gatsby, about 60 pages into Din Quixote.

Enjoying it enough so far, expecting some of his crazy adventures to be pretty fun.


Magic. The last book I got into was The Alchemists Secret. Then some drunk twat stole it from my bike when I was gone for five seconds. It took me ages to get started on it too.


The brothers karamazov

Escape Attempts: The Theory and practice of resistance in everyday life


i'll probably finish stoner in a couple days, the other two will take me a bit longer


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I'm going through Houellebecq right now. I just finished Whatever and started reading Submission. I'd like to read the rest in chronological order. I really like his style, so it should be a quick read for me.


Currently reading volumes 1-3 of Great Expectations by Charles Dickens, conveniently compiled into a single hardcover. Afterwords I plan to read either Intensity or The Vision by Dean Koontz. Following that, I hope to (finish) 'Women Who Make the World Worse' by Kate O'Beirne


This summer I am going off the grid for two months so I am bringing a few books with me. The last book in Asimov's Foundation trilogy, Trespassing Across America (no idea if it is any good), On Western Terrorism: From Hiroshima to Drone Warfare by Chomsky, The Tales of Rabbi Nachman, and I am working off of The art of Language Invention to work on a private conlang. I am a fast reader too, so what I will end up doing is grabbing random books from my family's bookshelf in case that isn't enough.


Don Quixote is long


The Left Hand of Darkness

After I finished it I will probably start Infinite Jest which I will read over summer and probably reread Metro 2033 for the 2nd time.


re-reading Anathem. Damn good book.



Rereading Anthem, THAT is a good book.

But seriously,

-Frederik Pohl Heechee Series
-Book of Enoch and a few other apocryphal works
-Be here now. Baba is a cool guy.


got this in the mail today, very keen


I finished Hyperion a few days ago and don't feel I really understood it, so now I'm reading the complete works of Keats. First time I've seriously attempted poetry.


>A Farwell to Arms, Ernest Hemingway (my first)

His style is very blunt but it's clear he knows how to use it. Bit redundant at times. I'm less than 1/3rd done so not much to say at this point.

for class I have to read Rousseau (Discourse on Inequality). started today on the toilet and did 2 pages :^}


The Last of the Wine, a historical novel by Mary Renault. Enjoying it so far!
Necronomicon, interesting for sure
Asimov Foundations trilogy


I'm sorry lainon, I truly enjoyed that book and was hooked from start to finish.


Illuminatus trilogy
Pattern Recognition
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

The Machinery of Freedom
Entering Space
The Case for Mars
David's Tool Kit


I didn't feel like I missed anything big in Hyperion and I've never read Keats or even really studied poetry. Hope it helps though.


I don't think I missed anything, I just don't think I fully understood the work and want to capture more of the context it was written against.

And I thought I'd broaden my horizons a little, I only ever read nonfiction and sci-fi.


>I'm currently reading a book about a Japanese Buddhist monk named Kukai.
I know this is an old post but hopefully you are still around anon. What book is this?

I got there in the end but not a fan. Seveneyes is good. Got me thinking about Stephenson again though anon, I shall have to add the Baroque Cycle to my reading list for this year.

Just finished "This Census-Taker", China Miévilles' latest. Clever but not intriguing. I have another title of his "Railsea" next up after a recent re-read of Moby Dick.


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Finished reading Cat's Cradle, by Kurt Vonnegut last night. It was pretty good, about a man writing a book about the creator of the atom bomb, but then the book gets left aside as the man get swept up in events.

I really liked the fictional Bokononism religion, based on the concept of forma: "harmless untruths that make you brave and kind and healthy and happy".

Next I think I'll return to Gormenghast.


ech, after the first half all the fun went out of it. I could enjoy it as a mindless thriller until then. The ending was truly ludicrous.

shit, I never even read Moby Dick.


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How Nonviolence Protects the State - Peter Gelderloos
William Gibson - Pattern Recognition
BLAME! vol 2
about to start Gilles Deleuze - Difference & Repetition


I hated Pattern Recognition. I hated every character.


>Moby Dick
>Failed States
>TM 31-210
>Anarchy Works


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Finished this in a few days, an easy exhilarting read. Been stuck on the same authors' "Embassytown" which had been a slog early on but is picking up now.


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>Ctrl + F
>no Cryptonomicon



>Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72
>The Once and Future King
>Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman


Currently reading Dune. It's confusing with all the names and terminology.

Recently finished All You Need Is Kill. I liked it.


Dune took me like three tries to read. Once I got past the crash it clicked. And the glossary is helpful, but you really only need to understand a handful of terms, the rest is more fluff as I remember it.


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any particular reason? I liked them and didn't find them out of the ordinary for Gibson. Cayce reminded me a lot of that one woman from Count Zero, just more fleshed out.
yeah but with most books like that you just have to stick with it. its great, keep at it.

now currently reading
>Difference & Repetition - Deleuze
>The Castle of Otranto - Walpole
>BLAME! 2 still, hardly ever read it


>any particular reason?

It all reeked of idle richness. And the only other Gibson book I've read is Neuromancer, so I can't say whether or not I like his style as a whole(loved Neuromancer, hated Pattern Recognition).


>re-reading Blindsight http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm


I loved the blueant trilogy, it was nice to read Gibson's take on the cybness of modernity.



is the cyberpunk a modern-day shaman practicing this same art?


No, because alchemy was always a sham.


Dune was a little slow, but once they got to Arrakis I was hooked. Been going at it next to reading 1984. I find 1984 to be a hard read, I'm struggling to keep going with it. The writing style and the constant driving home of how horrible everything is kinda gets tired to read.


Remember that Orwell's audience were not always familiar with how bad Stalinism tended to be. The work was kind of a parable about the dangers of allowing one's freedoms to be sacrificed for the "good of the international worker's movement" among other things.


Right, and I understand how bad Stalin, and even modern day NK are. I'll continue it, but I'm reading Dune more in my spare time.


Finished 1984. I think it's just ok as a story, but the message is still powerful.


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I'm reading the metaphysics, critique of pure reason, and the summa theologica.


>critique of pure reason

keeping yourself busy I see.


I've decided to start going through Gibson's whole bibliography, after only having read Burning Chrome (the story not the compilation) and Neuromancer. I'm starting with Count Zero; the .pdf is a shitty OCR job that never got edited, so I'm having to make do. Next I'll move onto Mona Lisa Overdrive and then I'll go in chronological order.


Finished Dune. Man, that was so good!


Wonderful place to start


Jared Diamond's a white guilt hack tbh


and who is he hacking from?


-hard boiled wonderland and the end of the world
-rereading candide


kokoro made me cry, gl


The Mists of Avalon I'm reading slowly.


I finished Trespassing across America very quickly. It has taught me a lot about the Midwest and the people who live there that I probably would have never known otherwise. The author is an environmentalist and I can sense his frustration with oil men when he writes, but his efforts to remain a neutral observer until the end of his journey make a riveting book that raises a lot of questions. Chomsky mostly bored me because I've read him before and I think his writing is predictable, but all the other books I brought were good.


Long thread wew

I just finished Things Fall Apart. It was pretty good. The only weird thing was the awkward description whenever a big change happens in the book, like when (spoiler?) Okonkwo fuarrrks up and gets exiled, and especially the sudden ending. The descriptions of the religious ceremonies were really comfy though and reminded me of Zelda. Good book.

How is the second part of Don Quixote? I know I should read it but tbh the first part started to get annoying with all the subplots and novellas near the end.

Part 3 of Kokoro is so pretty, beautiful book


Just finished Permutation City, now reading Bradbury's Martian Chronicles. I'm enjoying the absurdity of it.


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reading a pile of different soykaf for pleasure and classes. main reads are :
Moby DicC
Ray Brassier - Nihil Unbound: Enlightenment and Extinction
James der Derian - Virtuous War: Mapping the Military-Industrial-Media-Entertainment Network

Things Fall Apart bored me out of my mind but yeah, I can see it being comfy.


It's pretty short and the prose is easy to get through. I'm reading it for class so I don't have to worry about enjoying it, maybe that helps.


Achebe's prose is fairly sub par but I feel like it was mainly written for its conclusion. Also all the bullsoykaf about it being a sort of response to the portrayal of Africans in Heart of Darkness. "An Image of Africa" is an interesting read if your class hasn't already brought it up.


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I just finished A Tale of Two Cities, and it was great. The prose really put me off at first, but over time it became obvious what he was going for. I can picture every major area, like Saint Antoine street, vividly in my mind, while in the pretty similar novel The Count of Monte Cristo, I can only remember the plot. Every chapter about the passage of time especially was stunning.

The conclusion was kind of a let-down. I don't know if it's because suicide is such a run-of-the-mill "shock" ending, or because it was actually poorly written, but I thought nothing of it. Also, I don't remember Heart of Darkness showing the Africans in any really negative way. It seemed pretty direct in showing how colonization was fuarrrking them over.

At least, it was neat how Achebe showed Christianity destabilizing the tribes.


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Reread Blindsight, but I hadn't read Echopraxia before. I don't know if I liked it as much, but I still really enjoyed it. Nothing gets my rocks off like philisophical hard scifi.
I'm about a sixth of the way through Catch-22, as well. I'm really digging it, it's like Kafka but different in a way that I'm having trouble quantifying.


Kafka is an interesting comparison. Maybe he could be the American Kafka. To me, it seemed really similar to Slaughterhouse Five at first, but by the end, Heller definitely establishes his own thing. It's almost headache-inducing at times, but the ending is really worth it.


Brave New World is pretty cool. Anyone else get some pretty strong FFVII vibes from it? With the cyberpunk-ish megacity, the descriptions of intercontinental travel, and the undeveloped spiritual centers in the middle of the desert (Cosmo's Canyon/the reservations) it was hard not to notice.


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Just finished Yevgeny Zamyatin's We.

A great dystopian novel which I think deserves to be up there with the greats. It boasts a great narrative with that wonderful SF dropping you into the unknown through the eyes of a Number (person) who doesn't want to be different.

Tackling themes of alienation after group separation, another sick SF world and the unwavering "rationalism" of science; this book should be read by any dystopian lover.

Also; no longer under copyright! https://mises.org/library/we


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>but then the book gets left aside as the man get swept up in events
Jesus this is the worst description I've ever heard anyone give about cat's cradle.
It's like summarising 1984 as "a man writes in a diary and then does other things"


Finishing the Aeneid, supplemented by Orlando Furioso and tidbits of poetry by Byron.

Will start Childe Harold's Pilgrimage soon, need to touch up on NT and the Tale of the Heike. The Song of Roland and Purgatorio deserve my attention as well.


I started my long overdue homework of understanding how George Orwell formed his literary style and philosophy. Reading collection of essays with down and out in Paris and London.


Started reading 2666 a couple of days ago, am around 100 pages in so far.


I really enjoyed this book. I need to get around to reading The Savage Detectives one of these days.


Yeah I like it so far. Got The Savage Detectives as well, so might read that one after 2666.



I just started The Savage Detectives today, which meant I haven't accomplished anything else, because I keep feeling that I ought to read just a little more before going anywhere else.


I got my hands on lolita, and have started reading it, it is quite a good book so far.


read The Martian on a car ride.

Pretty good, not the best writing but it's a good story.


Recently finished:

Birth of Tragedy




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Rate my recent book purchase.



10/10 would fuarrrk if seen at library.


currently reading

Brave New World
Darkness At Noon
An Introduction to Mechanics by Kleppner&Kolenkow


that resolution tho


Modern phones fam. I love the camera on my phone.

Th-thanks lainon


Currently reading
"A Scanner Darkly" by Dick
I'm also trying to find Ego and his own in my local libs


>Ego and his own
your best bet, and even then it might be a stretch, would be college libraries.


> Programming principles and practice using C++
> Crime and punishment


Twenty-Four Hours in the Life of a Woman by Zweig (in German)
The Way of the Tarot by Jodorowsky
The Essential Rumi
Cupid's Poisoned Arrow by Marnia Robinson

And currently going through some book on data science and statistics

Momentarily dropped on SICP because it's hard
Also waiting to pick up A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man again

I'm between two jobs so I read almost all day.


The Road by McCarthy
How to Read a Book by Adler


>How to Read a Book by Adler
How is it thus far? Is it worth investing some time into this or a similar book?


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I'm reading all Asimov's books.
I'm on The Naked Sun , but The Caves of Steel is my favorite so far(I already read Foundation).
And also the last Witcher novel.


All Asimov's books?

Do you mean just his fiction?


The Count of Monte Cristo
The Bible
The Bell Jar


Current : extracts from Dante's Divine Comedy
To follow:
Animal farm, Orwell
To kill a mocking bird
Spinoza: Ethics (someday)

Recently read:
Aldiss : Non Stop (loved it)
Priest : The Inverted World
Alain: On Hapiness


>Current : extracts from Dante's Divine Comedy
> extracts



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I bought an incomplete edition with comments explaining subtleties and references. Preferred beginning with a kind of 'introduction' rather getting lost in the full text. Might consider reading the full Inferno though.
No place in hell for those who ain't reading the full book, amirite ?


Fair enough. There are more than enough annotated publications out there though, if that's what was keeping you from getting the entire work.


Just finished The Forever War, starting on Forever Peace.


have recently been reading gravity's rainbow actually. but got fairly sick & couldn't concentrate after reading a chapter or so, and haven't picked it up. Also found it hard to read bc of the long-ish chapters, long rambling sentences, and the fact i usually read right before sleeping. But I've heard good things & enjoyed what i read so I'll pick it up again.


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Currently reading Rant, really enjoying it.


Just finished a few nights ago, it's my intro into reading for enjoyment. I really liked it, I'm onto Do Androids Dream of Eletric Sheep now.


Don Quixote is fuarrrking long

I'm finally almost at the end, less than 100 pages left, and I'd like to be finished by tomorrow night at the latest.

It was a bit of a drag in a few places, but man, as I get to the end, I find myself already feeling like I'm really going to miss Quixote and Sancho. They really are great characters.


just finished the accidental (love, but maybe stay away if you're not "borderline 20-something female" enough to appreciate) and then Six Records of a Life Adrift (nice little story about people trying to be people in a kind-of-terrifying environment. interesting anecdotes, but narrator's self-righteous-ness-ing drags a little. would be impossible to read in china-speak X_X).

now on to marguerite yourcenar's memoire, Dear Departed

remember at my highschool the teachers, and a few students, held a one-day one-night reading of don quixote straight through, taking turns. was really cool.

congrajulate on making it


That sounds crazy, seems like it would be pretty fun to do though

Just finished it, the final chapter was very bittersweet. All in all, enjoyed it a whole lot despite the amount of time it took me.

Now I'm starting Neuromancer


I couldn't read it. the format was too confusing for me. The audio book is AMAZING. every person gets their own voice actor and its much easier to follow along. Its like how that story is supposed to be told, imo


How much did you read? I remember it took me two to three chapters to get it down and start understanding it, but I absolutely loved reading it this way.

I don't know if I would have enjoyed it the same as an audio book, but sounds like a nice idea for this one.


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Currently reading:
Storm of steel by Ernst Jünger
The Metamorphosis by Kafka
Metro 2033 (for the third time time now)

recently read:
Uninhabited Island by Strugatzki
Through the mountains of Madness by H.P. Lovecraft

Waiting to read:
Sturm by Ernst Jünger
Der Waldgang by Jünger

Teenage shizo autist detected


Currently reading gravitys rainbow. Its amazing I wish I had gotten to reading it earlier.


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Currently reading VALIS.

The Empire never ended.



It's a fantastic book, one of my personal hightlights from it was when Dedalus' student friends are trying to get him to sign a petition for a Nationalist cause and when he refuses they say he's not even Irish, to which he replies:

"This race and this country and this life produced me. I shall express myself as I am."

I'm glad that you're enjoying it, as revered as Joyce is I feel that people overlook his works or deem them too complex to enjoy, well this generation at least.


Joyce's stuff often references things that are just not part of my lore or personal experience so a lot of it goes right past me. As for the most complex of his works, Ulysses and Finnegans Wake, you need a certain level of education to understand them at all. I enjoyed the first few chapters of Ulysses but more and more started to lose any track of what was going on, until the final chapter which I thought was fantastic. I think I read six pages of the Wake before conceding defeat.

The court proceedings leading to the lifting of the US ban on Ulysses are fascinating and this judge had a better grasp on literature than a lot of critics writing today:

What I hoped to find in Joyce I found in later writers who were inspired by him. Dhalgren by Samuel R. Delany comes to mind. He used a somewhat similar technique (somewhat) but used it to depict cultural and social situations I understood much better because I'd lived through similar things myself.


The Bhagavad Gita
American Transcendentalists (Buell)
The Imaginary Institution of Society (Castoriadis)


Just finished Bliss by Peter Carey, I really enjoyed it (Australian postmodern-ish fiction). Something I read recently that someone here might enjoy: the (unfortunately incomplete) translation that John Steinbeck made of La Morte d'Arthur. I was astonished to find out this book even existed and it seriously did not disappoint.

Currently working my way through:
* The Poverty of Historicism - Karl Popper
* A Marginal Jew: Rethinking the Historical Jesus, Vol. 2 - John P. Meier
* Bibliotheke - [Pseudo] Apollodorus
plus a Zora Neale Hurston reader and some textbooks for university

> In respect of the recurrent emergence of the theme of sex in the minds of his characters, it must always be remembered that his locale was Celtic and his season spring.
I laffed.

Loved that book. If you're in the mindset and enjoying it, I recommend working through the whole trilogy.


Reading Now: Hatcher's Notebook by Julian S Hatcher
The Whisperer in Darkness by HP Lovecraft
Hacking The Xbox by bunnie

Just Finished:
The Great Gamble by Gregory Feifer
One Minute to Midnight by Michael Dobbs


Read through The Crying of Lot 49, it was very interesting, I really liked his writing style. Might try and grab V. soon.

Now reading Julius Caesar, and after that Antony and Cleopatra


Reading Dune for the first time- about halfway through, it's fantastic. It's one of the few books that actually makes me look forward to going to bed, when I read for a good hour without distraction.

Just ordered the sequel, messiah and Neuromancer, thinking I'll jump straight into messiah in case I forget anything, and I WILL forget something.


I'm reading Notes from the Underground


Dune was the first book I read in english, years ago, and I was pretty bad back then, I probably missed lots of stuff, I will have to pick it up again.
I've been reading Proust's "À la recherche du temps perdu" ("in search of lost time") for months now, a few pages at a time.
Not cyber at all, but oddly punk in a way, and very beautifully written, I would definitely recommend trying it if you can read french.
(I don't know what the translations are worth, but if they lose the quality of writing, it does not leave much as the story itself is not that interesting.)


Dune is my favorite fictional work of all time. I must have read it eight or ten times over the years. It's one of the few books that found to be worthy of re-reads. It's so deep and includes so many interesting ideas, and yet isn't very long. I recommend this book to everyone I meet and occasionally gift copies.


Dune is a little over 185,000 words. That's a pretty long book. Sure it's half of what most 19th century Russian lit might be, but it's still pretty long by global standards.

Also I heard a lot of /lit/ people who were into classical literature really soykaf on Dune. They said it was a waste of time, barely half decent. I've also only ever heard people soykaf on all the sequels.


Just finished:
Mistborn: The Final Empire.

It was pretty good; I would recommend it to others who enjoy high-fantasy. I will soon start the second book in the series, though it may take me awhile to get through it.

Uni takes away so much of what could be reading time ;_; That's what I miss most about my childhood- having the freedom to read hours and hours a day.


Currently reading The Man in the High Castle, Philip Dick is as interesting as always


Currently reading The Tartar Steppe. I've fallen in love with its godlike prose.


Roadside Picnic... it's quite different from Stalker and I see now that the film is only very loosely based on the concepts. The implications of what "roadside picnic" refers to are a little chilling for some reason.


Currently reading
- Ars Notoria
- Tales of Mystery & Imagination

Plan to read
- Necronomicon: The Best Weird Tales of H.P. Lovecraft
- Heptameron
- Arbatel of Magick
- Goldsmith's Grammar of Geography


Currently reading:
-The picture of dorian grey
-The invisible man


Recently Finished:
-Snow Crash

Currently Reading:
-Gravity's Rainbow (slowly)
-Atlas Shrugged

Plan to Read:
-The Fountainhead
-Count Zero
-Mona Lisa Overdrive


Just finished:

About to start:
Up in the Old Hotel

Planning for later:
Diamond Age


currently reading
> War and Peace
> http://a.co/fleNkGA (my own project, have a look help an artist who doesn't have the fanbase yet)


Finished Ars Notoria. Pretty nice little text if you're into incantation-based occultism, although the volume of prayers would use up too much time for practical use.


Previously read:
The Iliad
The Odyssey

Currently reading:
The Holy Bible
Plato: Complete Works (this is a long-term thing)

Not sure what's next up. Probably some short stories and modernist poetry to break things up a bit.