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No.12387

This chan is slowing down. Chans are like sharks, they have to keep moving to survive. And what we have on our hands is a nearly-dead shark. I believe this is due to too many boards with overlapping themes and not enough users to keep every board active.

I suggest boards be consolidated into fewer boards and then allow other boards to organically evolve from there.

/sec/, /sci/ & /tech/ into one board
/lambda/ & /diy/ into one board
/zzz/, /feels/ & /drg/ into one board
/lit/ & /cult/ into one board

Civics and society are inherently political. Everything a human does today has political and economic implications. Cyberpunk, being anti-establishment with its corporatism implications, is inherently political. To set up a board for politics only invites flame wars and allows for a space where various political "activists" can come and proselytize. Politics often colour discussion and that's fine. Current events and the current political climate can and should be discussed, in a way that is relevant to this chan's overall theme. Troll threads and propaganda threads should be removed. Create a /trash/ board where cancerous threads could be sent to die and for transparency reasons.

Four boards + (perhaps) /trash/ is plenty of space for the current amount of users and level of discussion. With posts coming in quicker on less boards the whole chan will seem more active (because it will be).

  No.12388

>This chan is slowing down.
Neither of us have the statistics on this. Maybe we can get them soon.

>I believe this is due to too many boards with overlapping themes and not enough users to keep every board active.

That seems reasonable.

>I suggest boards be consolidated into fewer boards and then allow other boards to organically evolve from there.

That may be reasonable.

>/sec/, /sci/ & /tech/ into one board

I can't agree with this. Each board has very different topics.

>/lambda/ & /diy/ into one board

The former is fine; it's the latter that could use more activity, but it's very nature has it being slow.

>/zzz/, /feels/ & /drg/ into one board

These boards are all also very different. Perhaps /feels/ should simply be deleted instead.

>/lit/ & /cult/ into one board

This may be reasonable, but /lit/ would be consumed by /cult/.

>Cyberpunk, being anti-establishment with its corporatism implications, is inherently political.

There's not going to be a consensus on what Cyberpunk is here.

>To set up a board for politics only invites flame wars and allows for a space where various political "activists" can come and proselytize.

I agree.

>Four boards + (perhaps) /trash/ is plenty of space for the current amount of users and level of discussion. With posts coming in quicker on less boards the whole chan will seem more active (because it will be).

I'm all for less boards, but four is too little.

  No.12389

OP, this thread has been posted every month for the last 1.5 years. They lead, when they were most successful, to the merging of two boards into one. And perhaps kalyx deleted a board completely instead of merging. That's all you can really hope to achieve with this suggestion, and even if the administration did exactly what you suggest, you'd just get what you just did: the same thread getting started every month. Soon we'd have generals only on the first two pages. If the important threads were sticky, we'd have boards with first pages made entirely of stickies.

I think the real problem here is that most people into *chan culture spend hours, or the entire day sitting in front of their imageboards; and get bored in 10 minutes if the threads stop bumping. They want constant action.
For the last two years, it has been repeatedly pointed out both by users and administration that lainchan is not here to serve such needs. It's best suited for people who work a job, or spend the day programming, tinkering on their projects, exploring urban areas, building scary AI masterminds, and then at the end of the day they sit down and tell others of what they accomplished today. If I check the site two or three times a day, there's usually some nice content, a few threads to post to. I can still find good old threads that I remember. Most of the news and events make it here, yet we're not overspammed with today's hype. Some people only check here a few times a week, and read all the new stuff in bulk. I think the board is healthy, but I understand that it's not like reddit or 4chan and cannot keep someone entertained all day.

  No.12390

>I suggest boards be consolidated into fewer boards and then allow other boards to organically evolve from there.
Interested to hear Appleman's take on this.

I mostly agree with >>12388 except to say that this place is certainly not dead by chan standards and should it go then a lack of high frequency posting won't be the reason for it's demise.

  No.12394

>>12387
>make everything smaller because that's how it looks like it's still moving.
They already do this by locking threads and telling people to post in some megathread. Combining the boards is the same thing and it's just going to look even slower.

Go look at mega if you want it to seem more "active". If you have ADHD or have some autistic soykaf then that's not our problem.

  No.12397

I don't know if I agree about consolidation, but your suggestions for what to consolidate aren't very good.

sec, sci, and tech are totally different. If anything, sec should merge with lambda (but even that's questionable), and I can't think of anything to merge sci and tech with.

diy should merge with tech, not lambda, as it has a heavy focus on the physical.

The rest I don't know well enough to have an opinion on.

  No.12413

>This chan is slowing down.

Probably because modfags and Kalyx's slae ruined it/caused many people to leave.

  No.12417

>>12387
This is essentially the conclusion kalyx and the old mod team came to before the appleguy takeover. appleguy proceded to make /sci/ and unlocked /r/, which really didn't help things.

personally I think /sci/ and /tech/ should be deleted outright. any good /tech/ discussion that's also appropriate on lainchan fits in /cyb/. I also think /civ/ should be deleted; it was intended as a containment board from the start and containment boards never work.

as much as I like /feels/ it should probably also be deleted. I don't think it's good for the site and it seems totally irrelevant while we have /r/.

I disagree with the rest of the suggestions though. /diy/, /zzz/, and /lit/ are slow, but valuable to have and would be lost in merging them into larger boards. /drg/ is pretty active and having a dedicated board for discussing drugs prevents antidrugfags from soykafting up the discussions.

>Civics and society are inherently political. Everything a human does today has political and economic implications. Cyberpunk, being anti-establishment with its corporatism implications, is inherently political.


*snaps*

  No.12421

>>12417
>/feels/ it should probably also be deleted. I don't think it's good for the site and it seems totally irrelevant while we have /r/.
^ this. there are better places for therapy, it's not a good idea to mix this in here.

>personally I think /sci/ and /tech/ should be deleted outright

This is an interesting thought... I guess /sci/ /tech/ are built in to anything /cyb/ . I don't actually read those boards but I'm guessing they're generic discussions that wouldn't be out of place on some other chan.

  No.12429

>>12387
guys I have a great idea, we can combine /sec/ /sci/ and /tech/ into one board called /cyb/ since that seems to be a good decriptor of the site

  No.12454

>>12429
Whoa, get out of here with that radical soykaf! I'm just a simple man here to discuss "culture" and "security".

  No.12455

/sci/ is a still born, should go to /lambda/ since it, watering down toxic lisp club

/sec/ must be merged into /tech/ unless you enjoy "how do i secure my android phone" threads popping every 3 days

/feels/ drags our community down the "BAWWWWW" drain, probably should be locked and then removed. Depression and everything /feel/sy should go on /r/

Same with /civ/ - containment board and potential ground zero for /pоl/itical explosion. All related stuff can go to /cult/ since /cult/ is the new /cyb/ (no one admits it, though)

One board should be added - /art/, because having /diy/ without /art/ is horrendous.

I would like see Appleman1234's response regarding this topic. Is any reducing or removal planned, or everything will be left as is?

  No.12456

>This chan is slowing down.
No propaganda, no new blood.

  No.12460

>>12455
Appleman has voiced his dislike of feels in >>12162 I imagine he'd like to change or delete it but he's cautious of doing so since it's fairly active.

/feels/ should definitely be removed, it has its moments but they're overshadowed by all the ranting and BAWWWWW. That kind of content doesn't really jive with the rest of the stuff on lainchan, it makes even less sense to have an entire board of it. I'd definitely like to see what appleman wants to do about it, perhaps even put up a thread on /feels/ about it.

  No.12479

>>12460
>/feels/ should definitely be removed
I disagree, I like talking to people about their feelings. I have always for some reason liked boards similar to /feels/, I think a lot of people don't get a chance to discuss these things outside of the internet. I agree that it can be kind of BAWWWWWW at times but I think it's nice to have a place where people can come to talk about things and give advice. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this I don't know

I personally think /cyb/ worked better than the current board system but I can see why they changed it

  No.12494

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/feels/ is one of the more interesting, healthy and productive boards on the site. It also keeps emotional ranting/venting to a minimum everywhere else, similar to the way that /civ/ keeps political bullsoykaf contained allowing other sections to maintain their focus.

/r/ is back after a hiatus because users asked for it to return. I think it's interesting to have a miscellaneous board, even if it's not quick.

PPH isn't a quality barometer, Lain. Particularly when there is no method to report low-quality or rule breaking posts.

  No.12495

>>12494
>Particularly when there is no method to report low-quality or rule breaking posts.

You can report low-quality posts or rule breaking posts by clicking the checkbox at the top left hand corner of a post , typing a reason in the reason box and clicking the Report button.

  No.12500

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>>12495
>clicking the Report button.
>tfw no report button
Been like this (for me) since around the time Lainchan was sold and the theme changed. I was avoiding this issue, hoping the button would show up sometime. But here we are finally discussing it.

  No.12501

>>12500
What browser , how can I help resolve your problem ?

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  No.12504

>>12502

I can only assume you are using the Delete theme. I have changed the CSS so that the checkbox that toggles the report button is now visible in that theme, it is visible and works in all other themes.

I also tested using Palemoon and it worked there.

If this is not the case, feel free to provide additional information.

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>>12504
> I have changed the CSS so that the checkbox that toggles the report button is now visible in that theme, it is visible and works in all other themes.
Checkboxes were always visible, button not so much.

  No.12645

>>12479
I am with you, there.