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No.407

Hi guys.
I am 19 and going into college next year(having an off year due to circumstances).

I was wondering, what are the differences between IT and CS? What are the similarities?

Lainchan as I see it is full of CS guys and IT is mostly ignored. Although I like the CS monoculture here, I do think we should at least discuss IT from time to time.

  No.408

CS = Applied mathematics
IT = Microsoft word & Powerpoint

all you need to know,

  No.409

>>407
obviously this is a very small sample but most of the IT people at my uni seem to be non-technical for lack of a better term. That is to say, they aren't interested in alt OS's, programming, maths, security, networking or anything beyond basic windows usage. Most of them don't seem that into any computing really. They just spend all their time going to pups and complaining that lecturers are "weird". Which means that I have to spend most of my time with them holding back an Asperger's rant when I inevitably over hear them talking bollocks.

  No.413

>>408
this guy gets it.

do you want a degree in technology or SCIENCE!!!

to you want to brag to people you're a technologist or a SCIENTIST???

do you play with computers or do you use a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe???

  No.414

>>408
lmao. computer science is not even "applied mathematics", it's actually pretty abstract. fields like automata theory are almost as abstract as category theory

  No.417

InfoSec is actually IT. While certain parts of InfoSec like Cryptography are CS, the whole of InfoSec is closer to IT.

  No.418

What about going into electronics?

  No.419

>>418
That's an option but I am interested to learn the difference between those two.

  No.425

There are some IT courses that provide you with fairly CS heavy orientations and optional classes. Like mine did, they even unofficially call my orientation 'CS light'.

  No.427

From my experience IT is basically spreadsheets.

  No.428

"Information Technology" is a loose buzzword that can and has been applied to everything from basic office suite literacy (document editing, spreadsheets) to basic ops (maintaining a mailserver for a small company say) to basic (i.e., non-foundational) computer security.

The entirety of >>>/sec/ is basically IT. Killing /cyb/ and making an IT board was the worst thing kalyx did to this chan.

  No.442

I'm in an IT program and here's what i see. If you are actually dedicated to computer science and doing cool things then do that cause you'll get more out of it. But I also know at least one person who left the CS program cause it was all programming and he was getting sick of it.

I'm in an accredited IT program and I don't know if that makes much of a difference but I get to do a lot of security and Network management stuff. Basically compare the two programs. Cause IT can be an awful program or a really fun program.

  No.455

>>442
In my it program at school, we do everything, and the class self-directed. We focus on cisco networking, but if you wanna code you can, and there is material provided for it. At this early into the school year though, its half the class working on servers and the other half prepping for the CCENT and CCNA

as for the differences between IT and CS, IT is the implementation, maintenance, and hardening of information systems. Jobs such as in devops do implement cs methodology through scripting and at times actual programming to maintain information systems.

However, dont bother with an InfoTech degree, compsci is broader and if you dont like IT youll have a better springboard to get into a different field relevant to computers, and if you dont like compsci jobs, getting an IT job is incredibly easy, and you can apply your skills with compsci to build your portfolio and resume.

When i actually start going to college, i plan to focus on compsci, currently im at a trade school

  No.456

>>455
Sorry for any grammatical or spelling errors, im on an ipad on a bus, and i hate typing on mobile devices.

  No.457

>>455
I'm not to worried about things like that if I wanted to go into science I would probably go to grad school and if I wanted to program I'd just make a good portfolio. Honestly it's just for my school the CS degrees are kinda soykafty and it seems they just kinda pump kids out like its a god damn factory. I don't think people should follow my advice without first looking into the program that they want to participate in. Generally though I don't suggest IT to people unless your schools accredited for it. Which is like 5 schools in the US

  No.490

CS programs vary a lot depending where you go. At one extreme, they are preparation for writing papers on search algorithm performance, possibly without ever touching a computer. At the other end, they prepare you for a life as a codemonkey working on java middleware in the cubicle farms.
Look through the course catalog for an idea of what kind you'll get and how much flexibility you'll have.

IT is support. Everything from unboxing computers and hauling them off the the cubicles to rebooting the exchange server when it gets reply-all flooded.

  No.675

>>414
nice troll post my dude like wow come on

  No.676

>>428
>"Information Technology" is a loose buzzword that can and has been applied to everything from basic office suite literacy (document editing, spreadsheets) to basic ops (maintaining a mailserver for a small company say) to basic (i.e., non-foundational) computer security.
Basically this.

Meanwhile, CS has two different major components. The biggest and most obvious is programming, which is what you do if you want to get a real job with it. The other is more of an applied mathematics thing, where you do a lot of theory work about how efficient things can be and how to make more efficient algorithms for obscure things. That basically means a job in academia.