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No.960

If humans never landed on the Moon, then why is Elon Musk pushing Mars colonization? Musk's a smart guy, so I'm guessing he knows the Moon landings were fake.

http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie/

Is Musk setting up a ruse for a different, top-secret, Earth-based project? (a la Manhattan Project-tier) Therefore needs to suck in gullible volunteers who think they will be sent on a heroic, barrier-breaking, space mission?

Is human space travel and space colonization beyond the Van Halen belt even POSSIBLE? With any tech and raw materials that might feasibly be available for us Earth-dwellers now or at any point in the future (even the far future AKA >10,000 years if we don't obliterate ourselves with global nuclear war, Monsanto GMO caused pandemic that wipes out the genetically cloned food supply, or global warming first)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0svuurLibQ

  No.962

Please provide a short summary when you post links like that.

Once you can go there, Mars is much easier to colonize than the Moon, due to pre-existing atmosphere and presence of solid water in the soil.

Not gonna debate Moon-landing "hoax" here, even if you're not trolling we both know that we won't convince each other, there is already plenty of material on both side of the argument on the web.

To completely negate the issue of going through Van Allen belt and of solar wnd during the trip to Mars, you just have to give thick insulation to your vessel, be it lead, water tanks (always needed anyway) etc ...
If it gets too heavy to be launched from Earth, build it in low orbit, still protected by our local magnetic field.
(See ISS, they are lower than the radiation belts.)
So, even if you assume that we didn't manage it yet, we will definitely be able to go past the Van Allen belt in the future, and before 10k years.

  No.963

Musk is a con man.

>Is human space travel and space colonization beyond the Van Halen belt even POSSIBLE? With any tech and raw materials that might feasibly be available for us Earth-dwellers now or at any point in the future


Yes, it is.

  No.965

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>>962
OP here

WRT the link, I would encourage you to give Wagging the Moondoggie at least one quick skim-through, in good faith

Even if McGowan's reasoning does not sway you, his writing style is top-tier and legitimately humorous (in the jolly, hearty belly laugh kind of way).

Although, tbh, McGowan's reasoning and his thorough breakdown of all the holes and inconsistencies in the official story are pretty airtight and logically sound.

>So, even if you assume that we didn't manage it yet, we will definitely be able to go past the Van Allen belt in the future, and before 10k years.

I sure hope so, before we get BTFO in a global nuke war happening.

Alternatively, is it possible that some remote place like DPRK (north Korea), Islamic Republic of Iran, DRC Congo, Papua New Guinea, the Amazon, some Pacific island, Siberia etc. might have a natural fallout barrier? A la some gigantic underground cave system that's many kilometers deep and wide, with fresh water sources, ample greenery, high oxygen, and some kind of aquatic food like shrimp or meaty worms/grubs or prawns or such?

A place like that which might potentially be safe enough to live in long term (multiple generations) in the event that the USA decides to launch all those ICBM's it has aimed at China and Russia?


>>963
>Musk is a con man.
What's he conning for tho? What's his real objective?

What's his endgame?

Is he, dare I say it, /ourguy/?