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No.3101

>"We prove that we have published stuff at a particular time by stuffing it in Bitcoin, in the blockchain, and then, if someone were to come and try to modify the material that we have published, to take a particular part, that would be detectable."

>-Julian Assange, Nantucket Project, Sept 28 2104

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaB3Zw5_p9c&feature=youtu.be&t=7m06s

>"Wikileaks needs to change in order to survive and thrive through the next few months... If necessary of course, if I'm not able to continue or the Ecuadorian people are unreasonably blamed for Wikileaks' publications, I will have to resign as editor, but our publications will continue. The part of the necessary defense of Wikileaks, we have engaged in a new project to recruit people across the world to defend our publication - and we'll give details of that as the weeks go by... ...we will issue guidelines about how you can promote Wikileaks publications without censorship.


>- Julian Assange, Wikileaks 10 Years Press Conference, Oct 4th 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6mARUrPtXk

  No.3104

>decode blockchain
>run keyfinder on it
>grep for wikileaks.org/file checksums
>follow wallets that spend money after cablegate

>the entire thread is posts telling you how the get the keys over and over. it's very simple.

  No.3105

>>3101
Has anyone found anything at all yet to show that this is actually worth wasting time on? This soykaf's been going for a couple months now and I haven't heard of anything coming out of it. I don't feel like wading through a thread with 950 posts on a /p0l/ clone board given their standards for "evidence" (see the recent Pizzagate soykaf).

  No.3106

>>3105
Some small examples:

http://gateway.glop.me/ipfs/QmdanmRuJLpEfFAjDZF5sBtnpajmZWGvmC8cWJQBoZKwNi/jean_i.py

python jean_i.py cd9104ce6d385428060d33e1d4843b0cdfc78db2f327116eb4f97d8e177a4d82 > out.html

Produces a conversation about Wikileaks putting information in the blockchain:

Wikileaks contact info? [quote author=RHorning link=topic=1735.msg26876#msg26876 date=1291501064]

Basically, bring it on. Let's encourage Wikileaks to use Bitcoins and I'm willing to face any risk or fallout from that act.

No, don't "bringit on".

The project needs to grow gradually so the software can be strengthened along the way.

I make this appeal to WikiLeaks not to try to use Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a small beta community in its infancy. You would not stand to get more than pocket change, and the heat you would bring would likely destroy us at this stage.

We have the hashes for genesis block through block 74000 hardcoded (compiled) into bitcoin, so there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to automatically download a compressed zipfile of the block database from anywhere,unpack it, verify it, and start running.

The 74000 checkpoint is not enough to protect you, and does nothing if the download is already past 74000. -checkblocks does more, but is still easily defeated. You still must trust the supplier of the zipfile.

uncompressed data using a protocol (bitcoin P2P) that wasn't designed for bulk data transfer.

The data is mostly hashes and keys and signatures that are uncompressible.

That transaction goes to this wallet http://blockchain.info/address/1JwSSubhmg6iPtRjtyqhUYYH7bZg3Lfy1T It has a lot more conversation in it. The address also has a link associated with it that goes to a reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1egi51/there_is_currently_over_10000_unconfirmed/

If you follow the addresses that spend money after the Cablegate backup you can find a couple of GPG files. Here are some:

http://gateway.glop.me/ipfs/QmWgm4Hy2ybQsUBbFQL2dzXomKmNbjho53JjzRP3dtTAPf/jean.py

python jean.py 7379ab5047b143c0b6cfe5d8d79ad240b4b4f8cced55aa26f86d1d3d370c0d4c > file1.gpg

python jean.py d3c1cb2cdbf07c25e3c5f513de5ee36081a7c590e621f1f1eab62e8d4b50b635 > file2.gpg

python jean.py cce82f3bde0537f82a55f3b8458cb50d632977f85c81dad3e1983a3348638f5c > file3.gpg

If you open them with GPG, it asks for a password.

gpg –list-packets file1.gpg

:symkey enc packet: version 4, cipher 3, s2k 3, hash 2

salt 43b7a256d8476b18, count 65536 (96)

gpg: CAST5 encrypted data

:encrypted data packet:

length: unknown

gpg: encrypted with 1 passphrase

./trid file1.gpg

100.0% (.PGP/GPG) PGP symmetric key encrypted message (salted+iterated) (3001/2)

Here are the files:

http://gateway.glop.me/ipfs/QmQ82rcHp8cvSnzTwpQ2R1cVrFunLeTvsReQ9ac9jjZeDa/file1.gpg

http://gateway.glop.me/ipfs/QmTaeHy4YirGZLekge9FnmbEKF8j1B88i9G1YwMRRkr3pS/file2.gpg

http://gateway.glop.me/ipfs/Qme4tEKxeCv6MYpm7ckbVwXVScYDEJyrwsLkL4WED9ZviV/file3.gpg

There are thousands of examples like this all over the blockchain starting on 2013.

This are some lists of some file headers found in transactions:

https://zerobin.net/?f44aec832ed4f646#QWWRx2PMutX+oIY9oDbBHATQI9skK8taD5cGgB1ERsk=

https://zerobin.net/?a358f0a65f3573b1#+B9+FLdPbNyCW+8WJNZTxqOY5W50sXYaOJoJWtb0G4g=

  No.3212

https://blockchain.info/tx/b2d9c88b629efe61fa63240c79cd05031d131fa02edddef01b2e94d414bc5b73

txid b2d9c88b629efe61fa63240c79cd05031d131fa02edddef01b2e94d414bc5b73

in the output script, there's a tar.gz header(1f8b0800)
in the unspent output

crawling down from this point, there is only one transaction that's related to this until december 6th.

investigating further. if anyone has any insights, it would be greatly appreciated.

  No.3230

LARPERS need to seriously fuarrrk off
Let's tally up where you brought this garbage too:
1)Intel Exchange
2)Some other conspiracy theorist forum
3)Some chans in onionland
4)32chan
5)LynxChan's demo site
6)Reddit
7)CryptoDog
8)4chan
9)Lainchan
10)Bitmessage

"this file, at 40 MB, would have been prohibitively expensive to encode in bitcoin currency.

if WL had these funds, they would be able to afford better legal teams.

There are two scenarious about this whole "OUTER HEAVEN" roleplay

a) the OP is legit a russian troll

b) the OP - and this is the one I believe - ACTUALLY BELIEVES that what they are doing (sorting through random scraps of internet data) has meaning."

  No.3237

>>3230
>can't differentiate between "too" and "to"
>thinks he is ultra mad genius because he knows how to use search engine
>believes in some angry netizen that believes in "spooky scary ruskies" propaganda

Why am I not shocked that lainchan tries to "make a good community"? Why am I not shocked when that same community goes to literal soykaf because no real or meaningful content is being posted here?
With all your community feels and insider trade you users do, you also bring the sort of spammers like OP.
You are falling for "us vs them" herd mentality (which explains most of lainchan) instead of learning something and building upon the topic.

  No.3241

>>3230
This is a paste, or some disinfo. This is scarily similar to a lot of posts seen on endchan as the thread got mauled by spam. Most people assumed it was a JTRIG op, but I think the glaze of Larp is ruining the search so people have every right to become frustrated.

I've been in the WIA blockchain search discord or a while now, and we have discovered many GPG keys and nothing much beyond that. There is a lot of information encoded in the blockchain, and most people treat it sort of like a public messageboard. IRC logs, forum archives, memorial messages, illegal primes. Heres a great article on it: https://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photographs.html

But, as Assange once mentioned, the blockchain is eternal. If I had information I wanted to keep for leverage or insurance, the blockchain is where I'd put an encrypted version, and my deadhand would be it's key. Several other searching groups have gone silent, and that isn't part of the Larp. I just assume they realised the futility and unlikelyhood of busting into these insurance files without a password for decryption, as the keys alone wouldnt be enough.

  No.3264

>>3241
>If I had information I wanted to keep for leverage or insurance, the blockchain is where I'd put an encrypted version,
Why go through all the work of some ridiculous roundabout way of distributing files when you can instead just put them on the web server you already have?

  No.3301

>>3264
The blockchain is distributed.

Files stored in the blockchain propagate all over the world within minutes, are kept in the blockchain forever, and cannot be removed.

  No.3309

>>3301
But posting the files you want to share on your web server like a normal fuarrrking human being means more people will actually be able to download the files rather than just a small group that seems to have just appeared in the past few months.

  No.3318

>>3309
I'm not too sympathetic to conspiracy theorists like the above but one of their more reasonable assumptions is that he's the target of an APT right? Hosting on some web server (no matter the jurisdiction) in a situation like his seems a bit naive.

  No.3321

>>3318
This is right. Files that pose a threat to natsec hosted on one server can be seized by the gov quite easily, no warrant or questions asked. Files stored in the blockchain can't.

File hosting in the blockchain is a still a primitive practice because it's impractical to share a txt file full of 64 character tx addresses. It really isnt dissimilar to binary usenet, and people are even using yenc to store things in the blockchain. Also, it costs real BTC to store things there, so piracy would probably not consider it, even if the minimum tx amount was super tiny.

Regardless of whether you believe the LARP or not, it makes logical sense to store the sort of stuff Assange has in the blockchain. He probably seeks to rely on the people that know how to pull from the blockchain to propagate the information over the internet. Chans are moderately successful at leak propagation, as proved during the US elections.

>>3309
>on your web server like a normal fuarrrking human being
This is a naive assumption considering the material Assange has. We dont know the magnitude of it.

>a small group that seems to have just appeared in the past few months

The groups appeared after the suspicious activities outside the embassy in London (Oct 16) prompted huge amounts of bitcoin transactions to originate from the wikileaks address. This included a few GPG keys. Maybe Assange panicked or something, we really dont know. Furthermore, Snowden tweeted a few things related to the blockchain like wallet addresses. Now the blockchain search teams are looking into other cryptocurrencies like Litecoin, which I think might be more LARP.

There really is so much LARP to this but simultaneously a decent amount of logic. Idk what to think, I'm just supplying context.

  No.3326

>>3318
>Hosting on some web server (no matter the jurisdiction) in a situation like his seems a bit naive.
Except he's been using his web server for that purpose for years.

>Chans are moderately successful at leak propagation, as proved during the US elections.

All the US elections did was once again prove that political activism attracts normalglitterboyry and kills imageboards. They brought over a 100% increase in connections to 4chan in 8 months and that reaching a 200% increase in the next 4 months is a possibility, brought a ton of people who thought producing and repeating memes was one of the main purposes of imageboards, and made soykaftier roll threads than /b/ has a regular thing outside of /b/.

>>3321
>The groups appeared after the suspicious activities outside the embassy in London (Oct 16) prompted huge amounts of bitcoin transactions to originate from the wikileaks address. This included a few GPG keys. Maybe Assange panicked or something, we really dont know.
If Assange was going to use the blockchain as a method of distributing his information instead of just experimenting with it then why didn't he publicly announce it? Why is the main source of information on this subject a group mainly associated with ridiculous conspiracy theories and LARPing?

  No.3327

>>3326
>If Assange was going to use the blockchain as a method of distributing his information instead of just experimenting with it then why didn't he publicly announce it?
I believe he did, and I believe he has since confirmed they were the ones who pushed the cablegate archives we found into the blockchain.

>Why is the main source of information on this subject a group mainly associated with ridiculous conspiracy theories and LARPing?

Initially, it wasn't so ridiculous. Using the blockchain to release information is a brilliant idea. Once news of the search spread into the chans the Larpers arrived, spiralling any constructive criticisms and theories into vast conspiracies about JTRIG and general disinfo. For example, the team I joined started as just blockchain searching - once the news spread, it evolved into steg searching podesta emails for CP (and everything they 'found' has been Pareidolia). This is probably the main reason the search isn't progressing, as the real miners are leaving and the larpers are taking control and introducing irrelevant side projects,

The project turned from an underground datamining clique to a vast Larp literally overnight. The reason all you hear about is crazy conspiracies is because the least-informed and the Larpers are the loudest voice concerning this grand effort, not to mention the campaign haemorrhaging actual searchers. This is why all your hear is stupid larps, because larpers took over and drove the origineers out.

  No.3367

>>3101
Hey guys and gals, I have a question that I would trust only y'all to tell me the answer. So I was wondering how and why should I use wikileaks. I am sorry I am a noob and want to get into this deep political stuff. I am kind of shaky because I am posting this while not using any anonymizing tools so I don't know exactly if I am on the watchlist for what I just wrote. So please answer. Also I am sorry again, this might be an inconvenience to many.

  No.3394

>>3367
you're a bit off-topic, but it seems like something important.

Publish to wikileaks if you have very important secret information that you think everyone has to see. Don't do it if you think it's only relevant to some people, or if it contains highly personal things about anybody.

If you want to search wikileaks, tbh there's no reason to unless you're a journalist. They'll be able to piece together a much more coherent picture with that info, and it takes a long time to do that so you should spend your time doing other things.

  No.3659

>>3327
>If Assange was going to use the blockchain as a method of distributing his information instead of just experimenting with it then why didn't he publicly announce it?

"For publishers for example, so that, as an example we are starting to use Bitcoin, Wikileaks, stuffing our, cryptographic keys of stuff that we publish, so, we prove that we have published stuff at a particular time by stuffing it in Bitcoin, in the blockchain, and then, if someone were to come and try to modify the material that we have published, to take a particular part, that would be detectable."
-Julian Assange, Nantucket Project, Sept 28 2104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaB3Zw5_p9c&feature=youtu.be&t=7m06s

"Wikileaks needs to change in order to survive and thrive through the next few months... If necessary of course, if I'm not able to continue or the Ecuadorian people are unreasonably blamed for Wikileaks' publications, I will have to resign as editor, but our publications will continue. The part of the necessary defense of Wikileaks, we have engaged in a new project to recruit people across the world to defend our publication - and we'll give details of that as the weeks go by... ...we will issue guidelines about how you can promote Wikileaks publications without censorship."
- Julian Assange, Wikileaks 10 Years Press Conference, Oct 4th 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6mARUrPtXk

>http://wlchatc3pjwpli5r.onion is down since oct 16

  No.3660

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>>3659
>If Assange was going to use the blockchain as a method of distributing his information instead of just experimenting with it then why didn't he publicly announce it?

  No.4090