Yeah this is my general feeling, though it does give me some insight. It's reasonable to assume that if you're on lain, you have a better understanding of these subjects than the average bear. And yet, all I see in this thread is>But why wasn't the RNC hacked too?>Who is Assange *really* working for?>Wouldn't it be bad if the US did this to another country?
All irrelevant. The only person who seems to get it is >>3418
While it may (or may not) be true that the DNC was hacked, and while it may (or may not) be true that the culprit was a Russian state actor, the entire issue of the DNC leaks is completely separate from the election itself. As I said, an election has two parts: voting, and counting the votes. Yet while that remained unaffected, half of the Democrats think the election (again, the voting process itself) was modified. This is because headlines that read "US Election Hacked by Russia" communicates to normal literate people something that simply is not true. They are trying to convince people to believe in a falsehood. Anyone who tries playing some sort of semantic argument over the meaning of the word "hack" is being deliberately disingenuous. In the 1970s, a Nixon administration insider came forward with information that the president had been using the country's intelligence apparatus to spy on his political enemies. The ensuing scandal led to his resignation. No one in their right mind would say his resignation was "hacked."
(Source of poll: http://dailycaller
. com/2016/12/27/poll-52-percent-of-democrats-believe-russia-rigged-voting-tallies/) >>3360>Do we have any real examples of OP's allegation to critique?
Some examples of irresponsible headlines. This list is by no means exhaustive. I don't want to spam the thread with links so google it if you think I'm fabricating any of these:
"How would computer hackers have rigged the US election against Hillary Clinton? A computer scientists explains" by Andrew Griffin, posted 11/24/2016 in UK Independent
"The NSA Chief Says Russia Hacked the 2016 Election. Congress Must Investigate." by David Corn, posted 11/16/2016 in Mother Jones
"Congress Must Investigate After NSA Chief Confirms Russians Hacked Democracy" by R Muse, posted 11/19/2016 in PoliticsUSA
"By any definition, Russia hacked the election." by Mark Sumner, posted 11/25/2016 in the Daily Kos
"A Muted Alarm Bell Over Russian Election Hacking" by Liz Spayd, posted 11/5/2016 in the New York Times
All I would ask any of these authors is what evidence do they have, if any, that the results of the November 8th election were modified by a hack? If the answer is "I don't have it," then you cannot argue in good faith that the election was hacked. You certainly cannot argue it was hacked "by any definition."
My problem is this entire conversation is leading us to a place where I think people will be inherently distrustful of technology for the wrong reasons; a distrust born out of a place of ignorance rather than knowledge. That cannot be healthy, and is an ill-omened portent of how the public will understand genuine cyberthreats in the near future.