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No.382

I am looking for some good encrypted chatrooms where cyber security, encryption and programming is discussed. Similar to this chat; https://cryptodog.github.io/cryptodog/ Do you guys have any suggestions?

  No.383

https://cryptodog.github.io/cryptodog/ is the best cyberpunk chat I know of, its basically a continuation of Cryptocat

  No.384

>>383
Any good rooms you could suggest?

  No.385

>>384
This. I'm also curious about this.

  No.386

We should start a room for Lainchan

  No.387

When did cyberpunk become an extra-literary adjective?

  No.388


  No.389

>>386
there already is one. freenode.net #lainchan

  No.390

>>382
There is also a slightly sekrit but very active telegram group. Contact @valent1ne on telegram for an invite link.

  No.391

>>387
...since it entered like every other fucking medium in existence

  No.392

>>391
>>388
Ah give him a break, he only wanted to show that he could use "extraliterary" in a sentence. Maybe next time he'll even spell it right.

  No.393

>>383
seconded

  No.394

The good ones are invite-only.

  No.395

pm sent ;)

  No.396

>>389
why freenode?
Do you want everyone to know your ip adress?
Use rizon, it provides vhosts.

  No.397

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Club Cyberia on Tox. Add Lainbot, and you will be automatically invited to the groupchat.
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https://tox.chat/

  No.401

>>396

Use a bouncer or a webservice, dork.
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Also, I believe freenode can be configured to hide your IP, if you set yourself up correctly. IIRC if you use https it will mask your real ip to other users.

  No.422

>>401
The only way to mask your ip on Freenode is to make an account and ask for a vhost and wait until someone responds. I shouldn't have to use a bouncer or webservice or even have to ask just for some privacy. It should be by default.

  No.423

>>383
>>384
>>385

I'll have to chime in, I'd love to join to contribute and just hang around likeminded people. Apparently lobby isn't a conversation name (anymore?).

  No.431

>>423
Interested in Tox, not sure what the deal is.

  No.440

>>423
You have to type in lobby, the default lobby text there doesn't count. And you make a lobby by entering a name, if it doesn't exist yet, you make it. For example I just made lainchan.

  No.904

>>440

tried lobby, tried lainchan, cyb, cyberpunk.

nada. crickets.

  No.1096

I asked for an invite

  No.1729

>>396
> trusting an IRC server to hide your IP for you

If you don't care enough to cover your own ass don't expect or trust others to hide it for you.

  No.1931

Hello everyone, there is an invite link for a telegram chatroom. Note the face control...

st12u://0ey59k7x.mm/wqpnp83m/BoGBOAzPMK9vYqa-ywoX09

  No.1935

Can't we make a lainchan telegram or wickr group? I would love it since I have nobody to talk to

  No.1946

>>1935
Isn't Telegram and Wickr fuarrrked? I heard their crypto is broken. It seems even after all these years OTR is all we have. Let's build Lainchat!

  No.1951

>>1946
Hm I don't think their encryption is broken. And even tough I care a lot about about privacy we don't need an underground tor server to just talk. Telegram would be cool because it's available for mobile and desktop.

  No.1952

>>1935
There are already 6 lainchan chats on telegramm. Lainchan.org, Lainchan General, Lainchan Games, Lainchan CS:GO, Lainzine and Lainchan /diy/

  No.1957

>>1952
Can you please post the join links? I can't join

  No.1959


  No.1972

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>>382
Not really a chatroom but a project.
matrix.org

It's a new project to build a decentralized chat platform where you can use public server or host your own. It always has 350+k users.

A cool feature is that they are building bridges to other networks ( IRC, Skype and so on ). The encryption is so and so this far, still a young project.

It works over different platforms Desktop/iOS/Android and have open clients ( Riot ) on F-droid.

  No.1978

>It always has 350+k users.
The majority of those are probably botnets (as are for IRC btw)

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>>1978
Well 250k is more like users from bridged networks. Since it works over several platform you often have to register.

So when they bridge over to a network they have to create accounts for them. So yes it is sort of cheating but still an awesome project.

  No.2405

>>1972
some one should definitely bridge #lainchan@freenode

  No.2543

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You guys do realize that Telegram openly states on their official website that group chats aren't encrypted, right? Even 1:1 conversations aren't encrypted if one or both users are using the desktop client instead of mobile client.

Yet they have the audacity to brand themselves as a secure platform.

Do you lains do any research before you open your mouths? Jesus christ.

fuarrrk Telegram.

  No.2606

How is it almost 2017 and we still don't have crypto we can trust? You either have to doxx yourself with your phone no, trust a closed source solution, or say fuarrrk it and use cleartext. That's absurd.

  No.2693

>>1951

Telegram's crypto is broken, yes. That's assuming you even use end-to-end crypto. By default you don't - you use their servers as a MitM. And yes - they do record your chats when you use their server as a MitM. They claim it's so they can synchronize chats for the convenience of end-users.

  No.2705

>>2606
I mean, we can trust GPG, right?

Tox is dead
Tor is sketchy
i2p is dead
OpenVPN/SSTP is.... fine but most VPN providers are not.

UK Lainons are

  No.2706

>>2705
Christ, my posts name is armitage.

  No.2707

>>2705
Oh my god I didn't even finish my post....

UK Lainons are legitimately in need of privacy for the general public.

UK Crypto parties when?

  No.2708

>>2707
I help host them in the US. We could do an online one if you wanted.

  No.2732

>>2708
I'm >>2707 but I too am in the US. I'd be down to help out in any way I can

  No.2742

>>2693
>They claim it's so they can synchronize chats for the convenience of end-users.
That's probably the reason they do that. They simply doesn't care so much about users security. They just want their service to be used and implemented encryption only to attract users.

  No.2743

>>2742

There's no reason it couldn't have been implemented in a similar way to Skype's old model where you sync'd with other chat participants. The MitM is unnecessary and a huge security compromise.

  No.2772

We need a tor friendly irc.

  No.2774

>>2772
tor and irc play just fine. but most irc servers (including the one i run) we block tor b/c of abuse. all botnet clients that connect are from tor. all nonfat-soykaf drinkers/trolls/people who just want to disrupt our chats come from tor. it just had a bad reputation among irc ops.

  No.2778

>>2774
That might be so but for some of us the only way we have privacy is through Tor and missing out on irc means you can't find the more intellegent users,

  No.2779

>>2778
sorry, but i cant help it that others have ruined it for you.

  No.2782

tfw no proper cli matrix client that takes advantage of encryption except that hacky script which slows down weechat.

  No.2823

ok lainons i'll let you in on one

#salt on irc2p

  No.2984

When?

  No.3083

What a shame.

  No.3127

>>3083
Read https://lainchan.org/sec/res/1742.html for additional relevant discussion.

  No.3151

>>2823
Any good channels on tor ? I know irc2p has an onion but it's slow as fuark. I don't even have any nodes blocked and I tried multiple circuits.

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  No.3862

>>2705
>Tox is dead

i keep hearing this, now i'm worried, i just started using it. can you elaborate?

  No.3872

>>3862
There was a commit on the 24th. https://github.com/qTox/qTox

  No.3873

>>389
>>386
>>396
Guys.
Lainchan.org has an irc server. You don't need Freenode or Rizon.
https://lainchan.org/irc has details.
>>2772
I have vague memories of the tor project operating an irc server specifically for tor users. Sis I dream that?

  No.3874

>>3873
>Sis
*Did
This is why I hate typing in the dark.

  No.3883

>>3874
don't know about tor, but i2p definitely has one you can only reach over i2p.

currently my favorite is still matrix. I hope they will actually make a local proxy application that encrypts and unencrypts messages so that you could point bots or weechat at it and wouldn't have to worry about crypto.

  No.3887

>>3883
That might have been it, I don't know.

  No.5035

https://github.com/LandonPowell/SeaFour
I'm doing this thing. Not finished, but it's got a lot added so far.

  No.5039

>>3883
that's a good use case, keep an eye on gitla.in/neo (@neo_client on telegram)
I know telegram is bad it's just what I use atm okay