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No.1 [Reply]

This is new /Ω/, also addressable as /tech/, the technology board. The intent is that this board will be used to discuss use of technology and software and to share findings related to such. This includes single and multi user general computers, system administration, embedded devices, operating system software, program configuration, and computer networking.

Discussion of software intimately related to or in a context relating to programming belongs in /λ/; discussion of circumventing restrictions and security in software or hardware belongs in /sec/. Discussion of modifications to hardware and similar actions may be more appropriate on /Δ/; a thread in each or either board for this is reasonable and allowed.

Discussion of video games and game consoles, including personal computer games, demoscenes, and other types of artistic software will belong in the /culture/ overboard.

Do not start petty arguments about hardware or software; all discussions on the merit of one choice over another must be elaborated upon in accordance with the global rules. Do not share configurations of hardware or software without accompanying comments sharing details such as the state of such a configuration and whatnot. Confine discussions about categories of software, such as window managers, to a single thread.

Hack the planet, console cowboy.

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No.120 [Reply]

Shall we have a thread on buying discontinued technology?
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made mine work again.


Have fun recording!
Also, in case you didn't know about it, theres minidisc.org. Its a great compilation of information on everything minidisc. They also have operation and service manuals for almost every device. I think some of the portable players can be flashed to unlock new functions etc - they may mention that in their equipment lists.

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No.142 [Reply]

Huh... where do I start...
What is IPFS?
IPFS(Inter Planetary File System) is a new Peer to Peer distributed web file system protocol that aims to replace the aging HTTP protocol. It aims to be a peer to peer, permanent, hypermedia content addressable file distribution protocol.(Thereby also replacing FTP in many use cases)

Imagine a web where you don't have to pay for hosting your simple static webpage/blog. A web where latency is minimised because instead of downloading from a server on another continent, you can just download it from your neighbor or roommate if he has that content. A web where distributed web apps will continue working even if your ISP is having major breakage.A web that will reverse the process of the centralisation of the internet and make it completely decentralised. A web where content won't be lost so easily by a failure of a single server and links won't break by changing a single letter in the path. A web that you can mount locally on your FUSE and manipulate with the files on it as if they were locally.

In some ways, IPFS is similar to the World Wide Web, but IPFS could be seen as a single BitTorrent swarm, exchanging objects within one Git repository.

In short... IPFS will hopefully become the web 3.0 one day.

NOTE: IPFS is still in ALPHA. At least a quarter of it's features are not even implemented yet.

Cool, but how do I get IPFS to work on my machine?

First you have to download the correct package from:

1) After you have downloaded the binary, you have to unpack it in it's own directory. And then enter the directory.
2) Now you can install it with:
sudo ./install.sh
sudo mv go-ipfs/ipfs /usr/local/bin/ipfs
3) Now IPFS is installed. However it needs to be initialised. Initialisation will make a repository at ~/.ipfs.
ipfs init
4) Now you are ready to start the IPFS daemon:
ipfs daemon
5) You can check your connection to the swarm with:
ipfs swarm peers

If when you start the IPFS daemon you get a 'bind: address already in use' error then you need to first learn the PID of the process that is using the deafult IPFS port and then kill it:
sudo netstat -tulpn | grep 8080
sudo kill -9 [PID]

0)The installation on WIndows is fairly similar as on Linux. However it si slightly different. Well. first you need to unpack the file ofc. Now:
1) Open a command prompt and enter:
echo %path%
Choose the appropriate folder out of those where you will put ipfs.exe
2) Copy ipfs.exe in the chosen folder.
3) Initialise the IPFS repo:
ipfs init
4) Start the IPFS daemon:
ipfs daemon
5) Check your connection to the swarm:
ipfs swarm peers
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Worst case scenario: literally not one person is seeding/hosting it?
Same thing that happens to every file or website ever in the same situation


>If you say IPFS has 99% content permanency because the Internet Archive is involved, then HTTP has 99% content permanency for exactly the same reason.
Internet Archive requires people to know of its existence and manually check to see if the website they're looking for exists there; with IPFS, IA can just "drop in" as a host for sites that would have otherwise died.

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No.146 [Reply]

Until /sci/ or /tech/ return, or if they ever return at all, I'd like to share something with the Lainchan community here.

If you are on Linux and need to install .NET Framework 4 within Wine, I have found out how. If you run the install script in PlayOnLinux, it likely returns an error message because of file mismatches. I think I know a workaround. Download the .NET Framework 4 file.


>Download the stand-alone file, not the web installer.

In PlayOnLinux, make a 32 bit virtual drive, use Wine version 2.5 and configure wine as Windows 7.

>This may work for 64 bit POL virtual drives and it may work with the 64 bit version of .NET Framework 4, but I have not tested this.

Now, if you are using Ubuntu or Mint, set each of these files to 0.

Now, run the .NET Framework 4 .exe in the virtual drive. It should install and work, and any applications that use it should work. I have had no problems. This may be common knowledge to many of you, but for those like me who do not know, I hope this helps.
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>using nano


>bashing someone for the editor he uses
that's so passe
unless you use emacs, you have no right to

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No.19416 [Reply]

Check the catalog before you make a general Linux thread, most likely it already exists. Don't start threads to ask anon which distribution you should install. Try them yourself.


Not Linux-

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No.196 [Reply]

Since hangouts won't support SMS anymore I need to find a new SMS app for my spy device.

Can you tell me some good ones?
I am hoping for something out of the ordinary. Plus points if it is free software. Extra plus point's if it's GPL licensed.
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I use Silence, it's basically the old TextSecure and looks like Signal.


Same, I dropped Signal because it needs Google, Silence it's the best. (Download it via F-Droid)

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No.201 [Reply]

>TFW i3wm will never support Wayland due to being too dependent on X, and requiring a complete rewrite for Wayland support.

However there is sway WM:

It aims to be a drop in replacement for i3wm but with wayland support and some of it's own goodies.

Has anyone of you ever tried Sway? I'm just asking before I attempt the plunge into it.
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I've never used Wayland as I found it confusing as hell to install it on a computer already running X and getting it to be a choice as a session like with Fedora. I would love to see Afterstep or Windowmaker support Wayland.


>using X
>not one framebuffer with tmux/links2/mplayer
Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!

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No.21 [Reply]

We don't yet have any /tech/ board but I want to talk in lainchan about this.

After just a few years inmersed into programming and related stuff, I've come to deeply detest the whole state of the computer and programming industries in general.
To begin with, the Web. It is like kicking dead whales down the beach, web browsers are bloated, vulnerable, and constantly leaking memory (and possibly your data). Yet it's the main medium of communication available. If you want some communication with the world, including the access to a lot of useful information, we are trapped with this nightmare called the Web. Let's add to this a thing called massive user espionage and how hard it is to trust that your communications have barely reasonable privacy.
Then comes the insane complexity found in operating systems and hardware. A horrible architecture full of back doors, operating systems that can barely stand and have a soykafload of moving parts, all from independent vendors, and a bunch of proprietary drivers that further complicate matters.
Even the best case scenario implies using something like GNU on a x86 processor, usually with X and possibly even firefox or some of it's zillion clones that do not make things any better. (either that or something like webkit, lain forbid). All the time while on the lookup for another heartbleed.

I get more and more frustrated every day with the whole state of computers that every step of the way I just want to give it all up and forget about it. It's really a race to the bottom.
I have seen some people talk about isolating from the whole world, make their own architectures, and make their own operating systems. It really doesn't sound like a crazy idea anymore.
Right now I'm using Fedora for reasons, and I keep wondering how it is possible for software to suck so badly and keep pulling pranks on me all the time and be so fuarrrking sluggish. And the problem is, if I wanted to use my favorite system, I would be limited in some ways because proprietary drivers, GNU, etcetera. And if I wanted to have a decent setup, I'd be largely unable to use the Web at all because javascript and terrible formatting. I hate this, and often it makes me want to just drop it all and live as far as possible from modern technology.
It feels as if everything was being made soykaftier and soykaftier on purpose, just for the sake of annoying people because now everything is a nasty hack waiting to break. It really, really is like kicking dead whales down the beach.

I wonder how other lainons feel about this, it's hard to have a balance with usability where the whole ecosystem is a terrible hack just waiting to blow up.
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This. Hype drives bubbles and confidence in high risks investments. The more risk, the less you'll want to initially invest.

The tech economy is a high-octane race to build the cheapest simplest products that simultaneously have massive reach and profitability. When infrastructure holes, sec, and dependency issues appear no one will want to fix them because it's a huge "sunk cost" on a few cheap experimental products. It's not the error of capitalism, but the obsession on ends without thinking about the means.

Long term is enough, as long as you leave a note for those in the future to eventually fix it again.


That's what YOU want (me too!). But unfortunately most people don't give a rat's arse about "hackable" systems, or secure/private, or any of the above. Outside of the board and other boards and small tech communities, the numbers don't even come close in comparison to the amount of people camping out to buy the new iPhone.

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No.222 [Reply]

How about we have a home/amateur local networking general?
I recently acquired a Cisco Catalyst 3560G Ethernet switch, and I'd like to set it up as part of my home network. I've gone through the Cisco quick start guide, connected my desktop and whatnot yet I still can't get a connection to the internet. I have it (the switch) plugged with a CAT6 to my slave router with the default gateway as (my master router) and in the same subnet mask as the master[spoiler][/spoiler]. Am I missing a step? Sorry if this is a really simple question.
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So, you are try to configure the connection to be this?
Desktop - Switch - S Router - M Router - Internet


Yes, assuming "Internet" implies a modem and a ISP.

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No.236 [Reply]

I don't have my own, so I hope its ok that I posted someone elses because I just want the thread back.
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We need more cats in /bst/ threads.


what's the dice for?

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No.25273 [Reply]

IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable
Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
Used ThinkPad buyers guide:

xsauc buyers guide:

EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):

Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):
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I've been trying to flash Libreboot on my x200 w/o success.
I don't have a soic16 clip, so I can only solder the wires directly onto the BIOS pins... but still, flashrom didn't find any chip.

Going to try again tomorrow morning, making sure to recheck the connections


My T510 charger is shot I guess and I'm broke NEET for now. I miss my best friend ;_;

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No.26296 [Reply]

the old one is on autosage and stuff. post new photos only.
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If that disassembled thing is a chromebook (and I think it is) you are indeed disgusting. Your desk is fine tho.


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No.266 [Reply]

LINK TO REDDIT THREAD: https://www.reddit.com/r/libreboot/comments/66tdds/proposal_for_libreboot_rejoin_gnu_community/

I, Leah Rowe, am seeking to submit a proposal to GNU for Libreboot to re-join the GNU project. It was previously a member of GNU between 14 May 2016 to 15 September 2016.

Before I make this decision, as a result of democratic decision making in Libreboot nowadays, I need to see a lack of overall opposition from other maintainers (willingness to remain in the project after joining GNU, means that there is no meaningful opposition), and a substantial level of support by the public. The purpose of this Reddit thread is precisely to gauge public support for this decision, and based on that, whether to proceed. This is different than before, and reflects Libreboot's new democratic style of decision making. It will only be done with community approval.

Libreboot left GNU on 15 September 2016, with a string of allegations and slander thrown at the FSF for a topic unrelated to Libreboot. Chaos ensued, and Libreboot's relations with FSF and GNU were heavily damaged. All of it was unnecessary. What happened should not have happened, and I'd rather not talk about it in detail in this thread, but suffice it to say, Libreboot should have never left GNU.

On April 2nd, 2017, Libreboot issued a letter of peace to the community. It can be seen here, along with my own public apology for certain actions which I took during the period of September 2016 to the end of March 2017:


Libreboot now has a more democratic leadership, and major decisions are made with direct community involvement. Several people have access to the Libreboot project via SSH into libreboot.org, and push access to the Git repository. Patches (including those from me) are now pushed to branches and go under code review before being merged into the main development branch.

Libreboot is now operating in the same way that it was before joining GNU, with the exception of the above infrastructural changes, working closely in alliance with FSF and GNU, while being separate in its own administration and acting under its own independent guidance. While this is healthy, it is far from ideal for the LIbreboot project. In my opinion, we are better off operating directly under GNU.

I am strongly considering whether to submit an application for Libreboot to re-join the GNU project, and I'm leaning towards a "yes" decision. The current stable release (version 20160907) of Libreboot is from while Libreboot was a GNU member, and the infrastructure that Libreboot used from GNU (mailing lists, and the redirect from gnu.org/s/libreboot to libreboot.org) is still in place. If Libreboot were to re-join GNU, then it all falls into place and the project can continue as though it never left GNU in the first place. The conditions under which I removed Libreboot from GNU would not, if similar issues came up in the future, cause a 2nd exit. If Libreboot re-joins GNU, it joins GNU permanently and a repeat of prior chaotic events will not occur. Similar drama will not happen again. Libreboot is now only about Libreboot development, and nothing else.
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maybe, but as long as you need to handpick (ancient) hardware and have at least a few years linux/bsd-poweruser-background to be able to install software like libreboot, it will never become an alternative for a mainstream crowd.


I hope that it does rejoin. Leah has stepped down as head of the project, but will continue to support the development.

It will be very nice once the x220, t420, x230, etc. are supported.

-Sent from my libre x200

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No.293 [Reply]

What is some (useful) piece of software that is written to be as simple as possible?
I'll cite some:
alternative to xlock:
alternative to xterm:
clipboard from command line:
mouse from keyboard:
image viewer:
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>as simple as possible
Nah man, Go is the tru path of Tao


Hey mod, please move this thread to >>>/tech/

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No.3 [Reply]

What does /tech/ think about Pico 8?
Its a "virtual 8 bit console", fantasy hardware that carries all the limitations of 8 bit machines but you can only program games in lua1
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Look up pocketchip keyboard on thingiverse


just make sure to set it not to filter results by relevance, it chops out most of the actual keyboard case designs -___-

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No.31215 [Reply]

>inb4 hurr stay off the grid
Just to get that shit out of the way.

Now, is there a mobile phone out there that isn't tied to apple or google?

A smartphone without all the information scraping bullshit and useless apps. (pretty much rules out all apple products and exploding korean phones)

Not looking for a burner. I just want a phone that isn't a glorified tracking device or at least gives me some privacy when I use it.

I may or may not use it to send dick pics, but still.


yours truly,
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>doesn't understand the basic problem
go back to 4chan.


why don't you get a laptop with a 4g card

although good luck if you want to use it on linux

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No.31982 [Reply]

Do you know of any virtual reality online spaces that you can create your own server on? I'm thinking something like that for lainchan would be very fitting. If not then we could probably cobble something together.
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Why not set up VR support in garry's mod?
That way people without VR setups can join in as well.


matrix recently announced support for this very idea, im excited to see something open source become standard.

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No.32465 [Reply]

This is the technical talk thread, meant for simple questions relevant to the board.

If you have a question that can't sustain a long thread, ask here instead, unless you have a good reason to start a new thread.

As always, research before asking anything.
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I'd like to make my Mac's GUI look like windows 98 or some other old OS. Is there any method to make that happen?


As far as i can say - no. You can't change a lot in mac.

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No.32652 [Reply]

So how many monitors do the lains use?

I remember reading somewhere that adding a second monitor increases general productivity by 30% and adding a third increases it further to 45%. Beyond that the diminishing returns can actually turn into loss of productivity as it becomes untenable to manage them all.

After I started using three monitors a few years ago, I just can't bring myself to use one even if it's 4K. It's just not the same. You still end up alt-tabbing, windowing, and scanning your cluttered taskbar just as much as one 1080p. It's like memory buffer overflow IRL.

I can't wrap my mind around how some programmers still use one monitor. How do you do it?

P.S. This isn't a "show your battlestation" thread. Feel free to post yours if you'd like, but the purpose of the post is to start a meta discussion around displays and productivity and workflows.
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Besides my 1080p laptop screen, I've used my TV, which is on my desk for space reasons, for it a couple of times, but the neck angle that the layout requires is not ideal. I do want to find a way to get it working- these USB portable monitors sound like a really cool deal and may work a bit better.


LOL...MBP is my work computer too. The desktop I built with my own money cost < $200 five years ago and is on the verge of death.

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No.32723 [Reply]

What browser(s) do you lainons use and why?

I usually go with K-Meleon because of how lightweight and customizable it is.
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It wouldn't install scripts and stuff on mine. If it works on yours, more power to you tho. Might be an OS-specific bug


I use the luakit browser
  (this post 
is not too short)

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No.32845 [Reply]

How does lainchan use RSS? I've been trying to find a good reader, but haven't been all too lucky.

In my opinion, RSS is a good stepping stone away from the botnet. I get a good feeling knowing that I am in a way eating the bait off the hook while not getting caught by the fisherman. I get exactly what I want while minimizing ads, distracting comment sections, and third party trackers.

One day I want my RSS feed to be my internet and when I have finished reading it I will be "done" for the day.
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RSSowl is abandoned, it's closest replacement is QuiteRSS, but it is like kicking dead whales down the beach only slightly less than RSSOwl. tbh the only decent reader I ever found was Newsbeuter


what the actual fuarrrk is that word filter

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No.33003 [Reply]

What keyboards do Lainons use? More importantly, does it matter to you?
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>Does it feel like cherry reds?
I've never used reds, but my opinion of these are that they have a very unique feel to them. It is incredibly easy to hit the wrong key when playing games. I mainly like using it because it is a cool old piece of technology, not that it is very practical.
Also it has this dank key


The ergodox (and a few other diy boards) uses a firmware called QMK that you can modify and reflash really easy. Either via the ergodox-ez graphical configurator or a text editor. And you can flash it via pushbutton.
That is way easier and more "powerful".
You can find it on github if you want to know more.

The dactyl still wins in ergonomics. I dunno i just value choice a lot.
I was actually just making a joke. But good that you like it.

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No.33216 [Reply]

I am beginning to get bored with flat minimalism in GUI visual design.

I wonder what you lains think will come after it?
I am thinking about whether or not I should keep using minimalism in my rice for a bit longer or if I should try rericing my stuff into some gothic/victorian style. Perhaps something goth-loli (FYI goth-loli is in no way lolicon, it doesn't even have to contain children).

IMHO one of the few good things about minimalism that I can think of ATM is that it is hard to make it look really ugly. i.e. someone who is a noob at visual design can still make something minimalist and make it look nice.
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The guy who made that is a fuarrrking infuriating cunt.


Go back to whence you came kevin

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No.33588 [Reply]

Mainly I2P. Does anyone here use it? How the fuarrrk am I supposed to find any eepsites for this soykaf? I found a random directory although most of the sites are in russian or just retarded in general. Anyone know of any chans or forums on i2p?
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polite sage to add that I meant the project that cropped up as a response to the TPP.


how are bitcoin credit card useful ? serious question eh.

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No.33718 [Reply]

Lets have a thread on abandonware.
What's your favorite abandonware game, program, OS? Why do you like it? Ask questions on hardware software, emulation, ect and let other anons answer them. Put a spotlight on an interesting abandonware project. Whatever! If its old and like 3 people use it, it belongs n this thread.
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I've never heard of this game before but it sounds entertaining, I'll have to check it out.


Its technically abandonware I think and it runs decently in DOSBox. Sadly, I cannot find the CD copy anywhere online so you'll have to bring your own music or play the soundtrack off YT.

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No.33774 [Reply]

Greetings all. Perhaps my fellow Lainons can assist me.

I am currently seeking a tablet. My only requirements are
>x86 or x64 CPU, either one.
>Must have a Legacy BIOS that can boot Linux related distros and Windows 10 from a flash drive.
>Must be at minimum 7 inches.

Price is not a restraining factor, but I do prefer to keep it at or under $300 USD. Can anybody recommend to me what I am looking for? I tried an RCA tablet, but it couldn't boot flash Linux distro flash drives because of a crappy EUFI firmware and apparently RCA doesn't release drivers for their tabs.
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get a nexus 7 2013, works fine for my kids.


Buy an Amazon Fire when it's on sale for like $35-$40. They usually do it around holidays so maybe check back around easter or mothers day. No 3g but you could just get a mifi and then have the benefit of using it with other devices. Good tablet in general even if not for a kid. Getting older so I wish they'd come out with an updated model but the only performance issue I've had is Tumblr will sometimes restart if you're on a page with a lot of soykaf. You could put a custom rom on it but its really easy to install gapps so they can get all their games and video apps since the amazon store is lacking and often out of date.

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No.33788 [Reply]

Laptop stickers anyone?
I peeled this one from a beer bottle.
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Sorry to be off-topic, but I don't know where else to ask. I'm planning on buying a laptop soon and I don't really know what to get and what to look for when choosing one, I've been a desktop guy my entire life. Does anyone have any suggestions?


Heres a guide from /g/
If you're looking to score cool kid points with us get an old ThinkPad. Next time maybe start a new thread?

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No.33812 [Reply]

So, fellow lainons, do you prefere a big (Over 1TB) hard drive/storage drive to run your computer's OS, or small one (under 1TB)?

Personally, I prefere a small 500GB hard drive for my computer's OS, and a bigass 4TB hard drive to maintain 500GB backups.

>What do you think, lainons?
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I do everything on my 240GB SSD laptop running Trisquel. I occasionally do backups of my password manager database, movie iso's or files, and a few games and emulators.


One 500GB SSD split for Windows and Linux, one 500GB that is a leftover from a previous build, 1TB that is for most games and other stuff that is too large for the SSD but important enough to me to want them to be faster than other stuff. And finally a 4TB drive I use for music movies and assorted things.

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No.33849 [Reply]

Could an apple user please upload the .app file for macOS Sierra to laintracker? If you don't already have it you can download it from the store. I need to run it in a VM, but don't have access to an actual Apple machine at the moment. I'd really appreciate it, lain!
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last time the internet recovery worked with my connection it showed me a ETA of 24h, that's why i installed linux, internet speeds are soykaf over here but i will try and see how it goes this time, i don't want to carry two laptops just for showing a pdf file 10 minutes


forget about it, i just got a thunderbolt -> hdmi adapter and it works out of the box + plug and play on fedora 25

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No.33927 [Reply]


I'm really, really surprised I haven't seen any discussion of ZeroNet on here yet. Cryptographically verified decentralized distribution of web applications. I think this kind of thing is exactly what we need to re-democratize the net, moving away from corporate owned silos. Especially for sites whose biggest costs are infrastructure and bandwidth.
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Yea I saw some videos and it's not interesting at all man, it is like kicking dead whales down the beach.


It has very bad security since the creators personally said they are not going to be focusing on that so anyone can just check anything You personally post through your Zero ID among other things.

And the already mentioned un-stoppable downloads of anything potentially illegal.

I loved the idea as well, but sadly, this isn't quite the right thing.

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No.34134 [Reply]

Desktop thread. >>34132 is locked and >>32046 reached reply limit.
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i was not speaking of wallpapers, i should correct myself once again, i was speaking about whole desktop(window manager) and shiit..


systemd is literally good

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No.34315 [Reply]

Hello lainons. Since you're on such a site I assume some of you make money doing something computer related.

Personally I used to supervise a help desk but just got a job administering debian servers and using puppet a bit. It's going to start off as grunt work but it's a step in the right direction. (If you're reading this, thanks for the ref JS :) )

If you work professionally in the Information Technology field, please share your responsibilities or what sort of fun stuff you work on!
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>I do freelance web design, but I haven't got any decent income off it
I believe that. There will always be a Indian that will do it for cheaper


what's the problem with the term p a j e e t ?
not pc enough?

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No.34356 [Reply]

Alright guys, I gotta brag for a moment.

So, I started Linux a while back, but had to dual boot Windows 10 for some pro audio stuff, namely Guitar Rig 5. Today, I finally got that soykaf working right!

>Linux Mint 18 XFCE

>All audio gear works
>Wine is doing great
>PCSX2 is running 100% at 60 frames per second
>Now, I am running Linux 100% as a main system.

Nothing felt better than wiping my 1TB hard drive with Windows on it and installing the distro. The ex4 filesystem seems to be faster than ntfs and XFCE seems to be lightweight enough. Needless to say, I'm a happy lainon.
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I honestly haven't seen a difference in speed in boot time. Maybe it's just that I'm only using ~35% of my 500gb disk.


> you have to decrypt the whole filesystem
You don't. It decrypts blocks, not the entire FS. I'm doing FDE on an old Core2Duo with ~1.5 TB of data with no noticeable performance impact.

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No.34816 [Reply]

I want to talk with you about how cybernetics and technology is attacking us and our future. So before we start i recommend to read this https://capulcu.blackblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2015/12/BandII-enbooklet.pdf first. I think its the best way to synchronize ourselfes to go in a discussion.

The big question is how we fight against it and how we raise more attention about it.

Further Informations:
Tiqqun aka The Invisible Comitee "The Cybernetic Hypothesis" https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/tiqqun-the-cybernetic-hypothesis
Joseph Weizenbaum "Computer Power and Human Reason: From Judgment To Calculation"
Documentary "Plug & Pray" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecPEkG2Pclg
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We need to translate anarcho-syndicalism into the cyber-age. P2P social network.


Culture Jamming.

Good talks about this subject:


A-Syndicalism is bullsoykaf for me, though. Just because Chomsky support it, this doesn't mean it's a sane political-social-economic model.

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No.34834 [Reply]

This is something that I assume most of you are participating in by having used Thinkpads, etc.

How feasible is this going to be headed into the future? Our hardware is slowly being outdated and no new alternatives are coming to fruition.

I am worried that the capitalist battle for the "slimmest" model will continue to push things thinner, less ports, chiclet keyboards, and throttling, etc.

I struggle with constant want to move forward and have a nicer screen, nicer battery life, etc.. but I have a hard time coming to terms with giving up the ergonomic keyboard, comfort, and the general anti-consumerism-like nature of refusing to buy new and focusing on old tech.

What happens when the X220 and the T420, etc, aren't good enough anymore? What can we move onto or focus on next?
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Well, you could do a 'sort of' open laptop, using a a Sabre Lite (i.MX6) (check [0]), the VIA OpenBook design[3] and HDMIPI[4], with some stuff from Adafruit (like the battery). It should not be hard at all, and cost much less than Novena.

But I don't think the laptop design will be a thing on the next few years. I don't like the mobile design too, so what I thought was to get a head mounted display (HMD), like Avegant Glyph, with a DIY keyboard that I'm planning to do (open source).

This keyboard works the same way as the DataHand, but using analog sticks (sort like the DualShock sticks, but tinnier) on each finger. The design would be pretty light (using flexible PCB), so I could get some bracelet within the design to get a pretty ergonomic design.

Together (the HMD and this DIY keyboard) would get a pretty good design for people that don't use mouse, like most of the people using window managers with keynav[5] when needed. I would also try to find the less effort and more efficient layout for this keyboard, like the Carpalx[6] approach.

Any feedback about these ideas? It's dumb soykaf or would rise some attention from the community?

[0] flash a good u-boot[1], instead of the boated soykaf they put these days (you can also apply this[2] patch). Also, get a good system working on it (I wouldn't suggest the system I always suggest, OpenBSD, since the ARM port is soykafty on it. A bare Debian install should be enough).

[1] https://github.com/boundarydevices/u-boot-2009-08
[2] https://sel4.systems/Info/Hardware/sabreLite/03_android-imx6-uboot-extra_fs_features.patch
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIA_OpenBook
[4] http://hdmipi.com/
[5] http://semicomplete.com/projects/keynav
[6] http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx


The main reasons why people buy thinkpads: trackpoint & keyboard.
Dell's flat, squishy keyboard with terrible layout is Apple-tier.

If they released a <13" or 3:2 laptop with a good keyboard then we'd be getting somewhere.

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No.34859 [Reply]

Any /gentoo/men here?

In the past, I've used only Debian/Arch based distro, and as I tried Gentoo I found myself quite uncomfortable.

What I don't really get is Portage and how the USE flags are supposed to be comfy and convenient.

Anyone minds to explain?
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This. Maybe its just because williamh is so terrible but I haven't really noticed anything wrong with the other devs. Lots of them are pretty great.

Also Neddy. He is like a god. You go into pretty much any forum thread and he is there giving helpful advice. His static /dev guide[1] is pretty awesome as well.

[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=User:NeddySeagoon/Static_dev



Well spoken, this philosophy is a core aspect I love as well and I am not disagreeing with anything you just said.

It could be that my perception is warped as well as I do not follow discussions that closely, it just sometimes seemed as if critique or suggestions even between Gentoo devs is simply dismissed without much reason? Not sure.

I was also not mainly talking about aspects of Gentoo as a system itself.

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No.34882 [Reply]

Hey Lainons,

I've been thinking of jumping the ship completly to Linux soon, as most of what I do can be done on Linux bit better. Probably Arch if I can finally get it to work, or maybe Fedora.

Anyway, my question is how do I get my Linux machine to look like pic related? Preferably with more blue than orange.

Image stolen from https://lainchan.org/tech/res/33216.html#q34755
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True I guess but then again a style like that is not something I'd change every day & restarting the browser barely takes time when you do. You do you tho.


>a style like that is not something I'd change every day
Stylish can be used to style websites too (I think that's what's being used in the OP in order to change DuckDuckGo's appearance) and it's definitively more convenient and cleaner to create a new stylish theme than to have to add website-specific rules to your userContent.css.

>restarting the browser barely takes time when you do

Lucky you. It takes almost half a minute on my computer, most probably because of Pentadactyl and uMatrix.

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No.34940 [Reply]

What's the recommended linux command for filtering piped output ? If I have a command that outputs something like:

gym_las 9/200

Can I pipe this into something so the output is just 9 ?
should I look intro grep and regex ?
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You will want to look into sed, or sed combined with grep. Also depending on the formatting awk may come in handy.

For future reference this probably should have been asked in the technical talk thread.


Let's see if I can do this from my phone...

<Some command> | sed -e "/\d\+\/\d\+/ s/\(\d\+\)\/\d\+/\1/"

Something like that...

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No.34971 [Reply]

Post examples of things running on machines that they were never intended to run on. Games get this treatment quite a bit, but I imagine there's been quite a bit of this done with other stuff as well. I really liked the idea of machines being refitted or reused for a different purpose.
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I'd love to be able to do this with a speedrun demo and no oscilloscope,


Love the pic - I wonder... could it?

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No.34977 [Reply]

lets hear it. Greybeard vents, rants, and confessions from veteran devops, sysadmins, and programmers alike who are done with the buzzwords and bullsoykaf. shall I begin?

chat-ops is garbage that started popping up four years ago when startups needed another circle-jerk buzzword to prove theyre really truly "agile." applications like mattermost and slack are to online communication as the infotainment system in a modern car is to actual information or entertainment. IRC, git, gerrit, asterisk and other technologies follow the proper ethos of "do one thing and do it well" while avoiding the glaring pitfall of "hyperconvergence" which is that once you lose the server, youve lost half a dozen services. meanwhile these autism spectrum "team communication suites" combine video, audio, chat, code editing, commit hook integration and containers (because docker is a meme) into a single shreiking 100Mb application, complete with emoji support for snowflakes.
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We use Hipchat at work. It is a flaming pile of soykaf. We use Jira too - another flaming pile of soykaf. Confluence, a terrible, disorganized wiki filled with POS documents that nobody is ever going to read. Dropbox, Trello, Mixpanel, SurveyMonkey, Mailchimp, Aha!, Github, Bitbucket...and endless list of bullsoykaf that we use to do...I don't even know what it is I do...some kind of project management. I work a quarter of the time that my colleagues do and get three times as much work done. I can only wonder what is going on in their heads.


Apps that are ~50MB boated soykaf but still require an internet connection to do anything.

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No.34983 [Reply]


Thoughts? I'm fairly divided: I love this in principle but am unsure how to feel about the execution (no pun intended.)

Who else the Second Rennaisance here?

I'm very sleep deprived at the moment so I'm not much for articulating my response to this at the moment, but I'd love to hear other's thoughts and jump in after a nap.
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not that guy, but the case to consider is we advance computational power and learning algorithms faster than real brain technology.


its more that alexa logs being used in court would result in a chilling effect on free speech in and around the alexa and violate nearby human's first amendment rights.

not quite there yet.

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No.34989 [Reply]

It would be entirely possible to host a distributed discussion system just like Usenet using the same protocol. I didn't understand this until I looked it up, but Usenet is just a network of servers running NNTP software that syncs messages across the entire network. This is also the principle behind NNTPChan when referred to as the network itself, not the software by the same name, which is also just a few loosely connected servers that form a chan. Just think, anything is possible: your own local network for you and your friends, your favorite community ;), or for any other reason you want.
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Can I get a citation on that?


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No.35042 [Reply]

I wonder, would a project, attempting to make open sourced Windows ME analog, be ever needed?
Do people need a fancy shell over 16-bit DOS in 2017?
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I don't think so, the only FOSS reimplementation i very much care for personally, is of NT Windozes, thus ReactOS


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I posted that image.
Here, have another.

I'm going to run ME for all of my compatibility needs. If you want to contribute somehow, look into KernelEx.

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No.35082 [Reply]

Would it be work creating a Lainchan wiki? Or would we just be reinventing the wheel?

I was thinking we could have one that encompasses info from all the boards. Or should we just carry on using things like


I'm not sure I just thought lains have a lot more information worth sharing.
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How rude. If you want a wiki, code up or shut up. Don't be a leecher.


or >>>/q/13011 for the link to the existing lainwiki run by cosmicpuppet. E.g. https://lainwiki.cocaine.ninja/

If you want to discuss whether such a wiki should be hosted on lainchan.org itself then see the related /q/ threads.

Locking this post , rather than moving it and shadow threading it, because there is already enough /q/ threads about Lainwiki.

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No.35087 [Reply]

This might be a post better suited to /λ/ but I thought I'd post it here first.

What scripts have you found/written which you find paticularly useful? (Pic related)
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Give me some credit. Of course I have.
Not sure how to debug it. There's no error output, program completes without message other than the echo'd "Searching... take a while." I'll look into deconstructing it when I get back, will be afk for a week.


Have you tried turning off your system and turning it back on?

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No.35152 [Reply]

So, how does the new Ryzen products from AMD handle Linux? Unless its God-like support, I'm sticking to my Intel Nvidia setup.

The next PC I build will likely be for audio and video production, not gaming anyway.
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100% this.

To think that a company like AMD or Intel would open-source or free a firmware blob like the ME/PSP/AGESA stuff is a dream.

The only thing I we can do is look to alternative architecture or computers like the EOMA68 to help us get away from losing our control of the devices we own.


Wendell just put out a video saying he's barely done anything in Windows, so yes. Looks like they might support ECC, which would be neat.
source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGWqTFultI

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No.35184 [Reply]

Do you guys use any plugins to make browsing lainchan easier? I used to use 4chanX when I used to hang out there I was wondering if anyone use anything similar for lainchan?
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Here is the Github repo https://github.com/4k1k0/lainpp

I changed the CSS for both, the new position and the transition effect. Is in the repo if you want to read the code.



I like it! It needs more work, but for a first release, it's pretty good. One suggestion I would make is to have an option to not have all the comments be the same length no matter what.

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No.35218 [Reply]

I've been going at it with Linux for a good while now but I've mostly stuck to the it just werks stuff (Mint, Ubuntu, Antergos).

Now I'm getting another secondhand laptop I was thinking of trying some new stuff & one of the things I wanted to try out was an OS without systemD.
I still don't like spending ages setting up & figuring stuff out to get going. I want to do it but like to do so at my leisure (not because I need it for a decent system) & get to know a bit of everything service manager or init scripts included.

So what's the most "user friendly" distro out there that hasn't given in to SystemD yet?
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>being this stupid

what's wrong with those things?


stop shiIling your own distro

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No.35268 [Reply]

Today there is so much retro nostalgia going on, and since us 90's kids are now grown up, 90's stuff is now considered retro. However, for whatever reason there is not much retro Linux nostalgia going on.
This is all that I have found:

So pull out your 0.99x kernels and show me some retro Linux!
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You can put it on a VM.


>mfw i will never experience the moment again when i killed off winme in favour of red hat 9 and i was rewarded with a great computer instead of a broken piece of operating system
>mfw i have no face

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No.35287 [Reply]

(name liable to future change)

There is a new imageboard-software concept in the works. Addressing the problem of powerful moderating positions being compromised and soykafting up the board against the will of board communities and their established board culture.
(See: 4chan, 8/b/, 8/pol/, 8/wx/ etc.)
>Nothing that isn't spam or illegal is deleted, ever. You can subscribe to different moderation teams (and bots) to have the soykaf filtered to your liking. There would be a default moderation team for each board but the default would change if the majority changed the moderators they subscribed to.
>To keep normal people from freaking the fuarrrk out a default profile of moderation subscriptions will be applied by default, the default moderation will be decided by an impartial algorithm that takes in to account the moderation most users in a board choose, weighting the chooses by activity.

Unfortunately there is a shortage of skilled /tech/anons who are willing to assist in the planning and development of this new imageboard concept, which is holding back development.

If you're interested in assisting in the development of this new imageboard concept, please go to
If the link is broken, try checking the catalog on
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'Good that you've already gotten the logo out of the way.

Now, onto the important stuff - what are the banners going to look like and will we allow CP?


OP here, I see this has garnered a lot of controversy. Now this wasn't my idea, I was pulling in people to assist and help out because I saw this idea as having a lot of POTENTIAL. I've got an update on the status of this concept.


good news and bad news.


is that the lead guy for this project disappeared before this got past the planning stage. (doesnt matter because of the good news)


double [ᴄᴜᴄᴋ]chan (8chan) got hacked (or at least it appears to have, it still might just be an april fools prank) and the original thread for the development is possibly deleted. However, this still might not even matter because of the good news.


is that both developers of Blazechan and NNTPchan have expressed interest in incorporating this concept into their own imageboard softwares. With the possible loss of the original thread, there is presently no where to organize and group together for collaboration. I will make an effort to contact both developers to see which ones could use some help in accelerating the development/integration of the promisechan concept on their own imageboard softwares; ''and also where to go to assist in whatever ways you can, be it programming-coding-further planning and conceptual development.'' I am determined that this idea will reach it's final realization in one way or another. IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, I BELIEVE THE FUTURE OF IMAGEBOARDS DEPEND ON IT.

I will make sure to keep you guys posted for any further updates- if I can keep track of all the places I spammed this.

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No.35297 [Reply]

I'm looking for a RAID controller card (cus my soykaf HP Z200 MB won't see bigger than 746GB drives!)

I need 4xSATA 6GB/s and support for RAID 0,1,5,6,10
Whats the cheapest card out there that fits?

Lets expand this into best RAID/storage configs and RAID general too.

Little Note on RAID:
RAID 5 with large drives is becoming less reliable - if you have 3x8TB drives and 1 fails - you need ALL the data on the other 2 drives to be 100% - or you loose everything... chances are on 2x8TB you might have a bad bit somewhere... Which is why I either RAID 10 or 6 (most the time) depending on if its an archive or live use.

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No.35314 [Reply]

Hi, I started a small business and I need to create prospect data bases. For that I am using my best Google-fu but I would like to know if there is any software or tricks capable of boosting my search's results.
Right know boolean strings are the only tool I'm using to find potential clients (other companies).

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No.35350 [Reply]

Hello, Lain.
What are your thoughts on nextcloud/ownclod for running your own cloud server at home?
I am thinking of buying a raspberry pi and use nextcloud on it to sync files betwen my tablet, phone and laptop. I use an iPhone so I can't use KDEConnect for everything.
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This isn't useful on servers. You need to provide the encryption key on every reboot, either physically via the console or remotely. It's also made useless when an attacker gains access to the system while it's still on. The only scenarios where encrypting the FS that your ownCloud server data lives in makes any sense is protection at rest, from low-tech threats (theft, investigations by non-specialized police) and to have peace of mind when a drive passes on and needs to be thrown out. If all the data on it was encrypted, you don't need to worry that anyone will recover anything from the drive.

The idea with encrypted "cloud" storage is to encrypt everything on the client side, with no secrets on the server. The server must not be trusted. Any trust in the server leads to certain doom.

Come to think of it... Suppose an attacker compromised your ownCloud instance. Wouldn't they just have to wait until you log in again to grab your password, and couldn't they then simply decrypt your data? Without a seperate encryption key that's never shared with the server it's game over as soon as the server turns evil. You could perhaps derive an encryption key to use locally and an authentication key to send to the server by hashing the actual user-entered passphrase, but a potentially compromised web login interface couldn't be trusted not to just send the passphrase without hashing it first. You'd need trusted client software for that.

I'm not sure where I was going with this, but I'll end on the claim that ownCloud's encryption is really quite useless and only truly protects your data at rest.


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I had to set it up at work. I use two application servers, haproxy for loadblancing and a mariadb master/slave pair.

Storage is on nfs which comes from a half million bucks netapp system.

Users are the upper end of the corporate ladder of a 300 million biz which sells infrastructure for waste management. There are no industrial secrets or technology, so nothing of importance to protect.

soykaf works fine if you host it at home on your own infrastructure as well. Use ssl. Use clientside encryption if possible.

The key to decrypt your files is kept on the Nextcloud server. If someone breaks into your server, you are fuarrrked, crypto or not. It helps if your hardware gets stolen if you have a passphrase on the key that must be typed in manually at start. At which point you should use LUKS anyways.

If you want encryption for important stuff, use containers and encrypt directly on your device. Then put the container on your Nextcloud server.

In fact, skip the Nextcloud stuff and use rsync for your containers.

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No.35356 [Reply]

Let's do a little thought experiment, lains! What's your idea of the best possible internet replacement, and how would the devices connected to it behave, what would their design be, etc. Feel free to ignore today's limitations on technology if you like, and go as high-level or as low-level as you like. This thread is only meant to be a discussion in hypothetical terms, but if any of it happens to be practical that's fine too.

Pic related because Ideal Forms
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You guys are so simplistic when thinking about it...
let you mind expand, be a free spirit (nietzsche concept).

a tip: netsukuku - DASH7 - SPHINCS - steganography - seL4 - LowRISC - faraday cage

second tip: caracteristica universalis - mind upload

you're not too deep into the rabbit hole yet fellas.



seL4 is a microkernel, it doesn't do much of anything by itself. Put genode on top of it and now you're talking.

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No.35410 [Reply]

Every month or so one of my friends tries to convince me to install the latest chat apps. I mean, if I install every chat app that people reccomended to me, it would be in the tens of dozens. It's annoying. So I either just flat out reject them, or begrudgingly install the app. Even a lainon convinced me to use pidgin, and another one mumble, I haven't even used pidgin since, nor had any wish to. I think about mumble every month or so but I don't want to bother.

My real issue though is that 99% of those applications are cookie cutter levels of similar. They are functionally the same thing when compared to ICQ from 1996. OK, some of them have some encryption, which may or may not be soykafty, and they really should have encryption but I am digressing. Others that have video or voice calls are functionally the same thing as skype from 2003. OK I myself avoid skype because muh M$.

Why do people get this excited over constantly discovering new chat applications? Most of them did exactly the same thing for decades.

Mods: Sorry if this rant is too aggressive, if needed I will delete this even myself.
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I am >>35439 .
For me the beauty of IRC is that it's a dumb pipe protocol and with enough wit you can do a lot more with it than it was originally designed to do.


Finally got around to reading the source code for signal and why it uses play services / phone verification. Signal is as close as I've gotten to having all of my friends on one secure chat app.

User base is as much a part of what makes a communication app great as any other feature and I think people are dissatisfied with most messengers and so want to experiment. Plus apps like Facebook messenger , Twitter and Google's hangouts wall off their garden once they get big enough.

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No.35433 [Reply]

The free and open community urgent needs to explore a solution for developing crypto libraries and applications based on other programming languages, and interact with protocols as strict as possible.

I'm not an opponent of the C/C++, and I'm not interested to those opponents who crusades to eliminate Unix and C for a better computing world. I don't have much complaints about all those memory errors created by C/C++.

But in some cases, the cost of a memory error is just too high: It enables mass bypass and decryption of encrypted data on the Internet. But the cost to find such an error is very cheap, they're in possession by advisory en masse.

Another source of vulnerability comes from the loose implementation of crypto protocols, such as TLS, in order to support some legacy stuff (SSLv2 handshake and EXPORT ciphers, anyone?) that almost nobody uses, combined with memory errors, it's completely a disaster.

Actual algorithms, TWOFISH or AES, have less importance. What we really need is strict implementations of common crypto protocols, with safer (in term of memory) programming languages.

There's a research project, called "Not Quite So Broken", a quite accurate summary of our crypto nowadays, is fascinating. They have written an experimental implementation of the X.509 and TLS software stack, in OCaml, also an OTR library. They dropped legacy support and interpreted protocols strictly, and they found it is still able to access with 70% of HTTPS servers. The downside is that it seems to be inactive after their paper is published and reported. The community really needs someone to pick it up and maintain it as a long time effort, seriously, have the code audited, etc, and we need more projects like this.
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Also look at post quantum crypto application codecrypt


So, your thread is about other programming languages applied to the cryptography field or the general modeling of cryptographic protocols?

If the first is true, then I would say that: formalization is not profitable. To apply a formal proof to a piece of code much effort is required, and not many people are willing to spend so much workload on this task. We have had some great advancements on this area, specially concerning topics like dependent types and automated formal proffers (such as Isabelle/HOL) but, still, too complex for normal people.
Also, about language, most of the languages used in cryptography, at least on the primitives, is checked by hand. If you go to some mailing list like the "moden crypto"[1] you'll find threads about this. People there usually write the code in assembly.
I do agree with you, though, that some abstraction layer could help. For example, there's two main problems that could have a better focus from the community: language checking and compilers.
The language checking, such as the ones implemented in dependent-type languages (as in Idris and ATS), or external checkers, like the simplified C subsets that can be more easily parsed for checking and optimization (see OpenPAT).

If the second is true, then I would say that some efforts is already been done, like the SeLF Project:

But, from my (not-so-trustworthy) opinion, there would be a need to go meta on this. Not just analyze the interaction between sets, but also watch is "from above" and see what is the main model actually doing, and see if it's really optimized or is a mess. That's the point with projects evolving Modeling Languages, such as UML (unified modeling languages).

These fields are not so explored because of two main reasons: is from the basis/complicated and it's not profitable. The first refer to the point that the study of this subject is actually the basis of all other knowledge. It comes from questioning the basics of logic itself, and going on the philosophy of logics, the metalogics, and analysing not just how is it's usage on practical mathematics, but also questioning: what is mathematics? Isn't it just an abstraction? Kurt Godel is one very interesting read if you want to think about it, and also Agrippa's trilemma and constructivism (realizability).

ps. too much text. people will not even read all this soykaf... but, look, you still here!

[1] https://moderncrypto.org/

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No.35471 [Reply]

>>34134 reached reply limit, so here's the new desktop thread
Funtoo with i3wm and lemonbar

ps: any lainanons coming to SHA?
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I aggree with >>36264
i3blocks is easiest.
Lemonbar is also nice, but a bit heavier on resources.


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Its not much, but I like it, and I'll keep typing because the body is too short...

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No.35478 [Reply]

I've been trying out different kinds of Linux, and I've been having problems with some of the distros I've used (Currently using OpenSUSE 42.2 Tumbleweed, but when I install new software through YaST it doesn't show up for me to use). What has worked for me in the past is Ubuntu, however I'm wary of them due to the Amazon adware.

So what do you think of them Lainons? Is it okay, even with the Adware? Should I use them for now until I sort out my errors with OpenSUSE?
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Because Ubuntu's moving to Gnome? Unity and Gnome are nearly identical, and will probably be even closer once Ubuntu adds their tweaks.

Also, no more Mir is great news. It means less weirdness and incompatibility in the future.


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You should take my bait: https://www.debian.org/social_contract.en.html

The question i always ask is "What if software with a social contract doesn't make sense and we build a better world for nothing?"


Hehe, that makes me grin. I don't think Debian is better technically, you can do whatever you want with almost any system, but Debian is more than just some executeables.

Also i'm kind of invested, i maintain some packages in Debian, would be a bitch to move to some other package manager like rpm ;).

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No.35495 [Reply]

Hello, lainons. I'm looking into getting a completely liberated laptop, like the ones many of have, I'm sure.

The obvious first choice is minifree.org, but their prices are just amazingly high, and the only computer they are selling right now is the x220. Is it worth it to pay 600 pounds for a libreboot install? Is it that hard? Have you bought anything from minifree and/or somebody else who sells these? And how much of a difference does it make, in your opinion, to have libreboot that is completely blobless, or a coreboot such as the one that has been made possible recently, where the ME is still on the board, but neutralized.

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Quick question, I bought a pack of jumper cables and a dedicated 3.3v PSU (along with a bunch of other needed materials) to flash a T400 and I was wondering what's the best way to connect the PSU to the BBB? The PSU has screw terminals and the BBB has female headers. I was thinking I'd crimp some ring terminals on one end of some wire and splice a male header on the other end.

Is there a more efficient way to do this?


forget the ring if its braided wire
put the male header on one end
fan out the braid and screw that down with a piece of square sheet metal (tin foil) threaded onto the screw. thats the crappy way

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No.35593 [Reply]

Hello, Lainons. I've been trying to switch from Linux Mint to Kubuntu while creating a new /home partition. Now, my laptop just boots into GRUB and I have no clue what to do next. During the installation I created two ext4 partitions selected one partition (the larger one) as the mount point for "/home" and the smaller one as the mount point for "/" then formatted both. Now, when I turn my laptop on, it just boots into GRUB. Can anybody point me in the right direction?
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the solution is in your fstab file.
this file command how and what are the purspose of all partition on your disc(s).
Read these links :
Fstab is one the important config file in the GNU+Linux set up.


Nevermind guys! I figured it out the other day thanks to freenode's ##linux channel. Now running Manjaro with a fully functional separate /home partition. Many thanks for all your efforts!

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No.35621 [Reply]

Computers and software in school and workplace.

So I use Linux/BSD because I like them so it will be biased.

In my University we have good hardware with windows 10 and it's so slow and unstable. Today it did updates after being turned on in the morning and it took forever, why does it take so long?
In Linux it downloads in the background and the restart ( if necessary ) is usually not much longer than usual.

Login in takes several seconds and even when the desktop is up and I try to open a web-browser it takes second for it to open. I have been running simulation software for various things and it's so prone to crashing ( actual tools for engineers ). Last week I got to talk to an engineer at work showing of what he had, and it was a thin client for a server and it was so slow.

But I also find it strange that nobody else really complains, it seems like this is all people know so they accept it. I find it staggering that tools for simulations/building/counting for professionals aren't better. I don't expect Linux on things, but I expect things to react quickly when I do something and more or less never crash.

I've even been toying with the idea of getting a job dependent on what kind of hardware/software they run ( Don't even work in IT ).

Have I just been unlucky or is this just one of those things that everybody else thinks is normal?
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several years ago, the school system i worked with was testing putting laptops/ wifi into schools, they "introduced" the higher grades to laptops by issuing some cheapo windows xp laptops and the lower grades got apple products (they found out that kids have a way of getting to things they aren't supposed to, using VPNs and torrenting... it was a nightmare for IT, and the server could not handle the load of all the people using the network on the first day, so there were), at least they didn't get the ones with cameras, i heard some other school system did that, then remote activated cameras to see how computers were being used and saw kids fapping/ doing drugs in front of laptops (I heard parents were more upset about their kids being spied on than their kids missusing government issued laptops - yes a school is a government organization)

Im not sure if any of this is relevant to the convo though


both of those gifs are from http://1041uuu.tumblr.com

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No.35637 [Reply]

Hi lainons.

I wonder, how do you get used to the habit of using password managers?
Isn't it a hassle when you get to a public computer and need to log on somewhere?
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>goes through the trouble of having seperate different passwords that are hard to remember for purpose of more security
>goes on public computer he doesn't know what is installed on

Do you know what a contradiction is or have you never seen a keylogger before?


Keepass, KeepassX it's the best way to organize your passwords. It isn't as secure as using a text file encrypted with gpg but it's more secure than using a "cloud service" as last pass or similar. Also it has an iOS and an android version which is very handy. You can use a portable version of the desktop software in case you want to use it in another computer which you should be vertical careful with. If you do this you should have a special database file with only the absolutely necessary. And you should change your passwords immediately after using the portable version in another computer.
My point is: Keepass is a very useful and powerful tool but the last layer of defense is you. Don't do anything stupid.

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No.35666 [Reply]

I've been getting more and more interested in Ethereum and the different Tokens created on it. the ones that seem interesting to me are 1ST (https://firstblood.io) which apparently lets you challenge people in e-sports for tokens and GNT (https://golem.network/) which will apparently allow people to rent out their cpu\gpu to render people's videos or whatever else people can think of and gain tokens as a reward.

What tokens are you interested in and what exchanges do you use for acquiring the tokens?
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>I started mining litecoin recently, realized it was a dead end, got the fuarrrk out, what now.
I think litecoin has a great chance of really breaking out actually. It has 4x capacity vs bitcoin and is 4x faster. Apparently a big mining pool confirmed they would support segregated witness, and has already had months to develop software to support it, so they could signal at any time. So the soft fork that bitcoin failed to do will at some stage suddenly get 65% support on litecoin, and on litecoin it only needs 75% support (rather than bitcoins stupid 95%). It wIll get huge publicity when this happens. It's like it fixes all of bitcoins problems with a few small changes. Bitcoin is dangerous atm and people will be looking for somewhere to go... a clone with the just the problems fixed looks like a safe place to me. Not touching ethereum after it's had such a huge rally


because the thread is about ethereum tokens not cryptocurrencies

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No.35679 [Reply]

Hello Lainchan.
My dog knocked over my all-in-one this week, so my tech savvy friend convinced me to build my own PC. I don't want to shell out for windows 10 plus the optical drive that I need to load it, so I'll probably be running Linux, which I've never used before.
I'll eventually upgrade this navi with a more powerful CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, optical drive, wireless card, ect, but right now I just need it run and browse the wired.


Is this dog soykaf? Can I go even cheaper? I didn't want to skimp on the mobo or powersupply, and I like the case.
how do I into Linux?
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>I'd like to add to your list of fun ported linux games though
Not a bad idea. Here's some more:

Open Spades, Battle Block Theater, Chivalry, Freedom planet, Distance, Rocket League, Starbound, Half life games, Minecraft.

Linux native gaymen obviously doesn't quite match windows, but there's some good soykaf.


I was mostly going to emulate until I install a gpu, and I'm pretty sure dolphin runs on linux.
I switched to an ssd and upgraded the power supply. I got the PSU for $75, cheaper then what it's listed as.

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No.35759 [Reply]

How do i go back to using a regular desktop environment? years of using various tiling window managers have fuarrrked me up, fam.
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You can if your hardware is good enough. Search "passthrough graphics card to vm".


How does the existence of Xen factor into that?
Is "hotswapping" the GPU between OSes without a reboot a thing?

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No.35763 [Reply]

Do any of your anons have any experience installing a distro like arch while being only able to use uni wifi? I live in a dorm on campus right now Andy only have access to their eduroam wifi, and a single Ethernet cable that requires me to register my Mac address before I can use it. I was told to tether my phone to the computer through usb, but that didn't work out. Got any Ideas or advice?
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Gentoo user here, in my opinion minimal install disks are an unneeded hassle, just burn a fully featured distro to a DVD or make a bootable USB and have all the things you need to do the install. The distros do not need to match, I used an Ubuntu live DVD to install Gentoo. I was able to use the GUI with networkmanager to connect, download the tarball with Firefox then extract it to the disk and chroot into it and do the install like that, easy.


What's the security setup like in your Uni? As in, compare the setup and structure between the ethernet and wifi systems, if you have ethernet available in my dorm. My uni has a separate setup for linux based systems, which requires a few certificate setups that they provide on the internal wifi page. If that is the case, you should be able to configure those certs on the LiveCD. If ethernet is available, you will likely only need the MAC of your machine, which most commonly can be inputted into a setup page you can navigate to on your Uni's site.

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No.35790 [Reply]

>Background limits: Improved battery life and speed
>Notification channels - TL;DR notifications can be grouped into categories
>Autofill APIs - Native support for password manager apps
>PIP for handsets and new windowing features
>Font resources in XML
>Adaptive icons
>Wide-gamut color for apps
>Connectivity - Neighbor Awareness Networking, devices can communicate without the need for a wireless acess point
>Keyboard navigation
>AAudio API for Pro Audio
What do you guys think? I'm looking forward to it, even if most of the features aren't really consumer-facing. Sorry if this this seems like a dumb topic. I'm new to /tech/.


Google became fan of throttling. With keyboard navigation they may open to desktop usage (and they should).


> >Connectivity - Neighbor Awareness Networking, devices can communicate without the need for a wireless acess point


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No.35796 [Reply]

What are your guys preferred window managers, terminals and general utility tools?
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This should really have gone here https://lainchan.org/tech/res/32465.html


Locked, as >>35798 wrote.

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No.35801 [Reply]

Will there ever be a rival to our x86_64 world of von Nuemann architecture? I mean, the bottleneck is real after all. But on the contrary, the big dogs like Intel have billions to spend and maintain there lead, production, research, etc..

Lisp Machine revival when?
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T/B/H, with regards to "dedicated/specialized" devices, I dug up my old iPod (nano 3rd gen) the other day, and it's actually really damn convenient now that I realize it. Having a music player device with its own battery, separate from my phone's, own internal storage, everything is just separated out with its dedicated interface as a dedicated device..it's actually not bad at all.
(Yes I know no FLAC but neither my car speakers nor portable non-monitor headphones can really show FLAC-vs-V2)


>Also what the fuarrrk is wrong with x86 architecture in general (count out such "neat" bonuses like AMT/PSP and other soykaf, found in modern implementation, this is out os scope, and not the part of ISA itself), and why would you want computers to execute Lisp directly?
You can't build this on x86: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284

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No.35807 [Reply]

So guys, what is your opinion on backwards compatibility? How old should an app be to be expecterd to work reasonably on a new OS?

Now obviously you can make an app that uses 0 external API's and that app will work for a pretty long time on any system, but I want the context of this post to be in the OS design context.

Ideally many people would like all apps to work eternally. While that is a nice idea, we all know how it ends up in reality. You add layers upon layers of boat called compatibility layers. Your innovation becomes close to 0 as you have to watch out for old standards, even some old de facto standards.

On the other hand we have the speedsters who are living on the bleeding edge. While that is also certainly a nice thing, in an extreme example it would be very uncomfy if most of your apps broke every month or so.

Windows is certainly closer to one end of the scale, while Linux is closer to the other.

Windows is generally known for its great backwards compatibility. You can be optimistic that most apps written for Windows 95 will work on Windows 10. They may not, but they probably will. Even older apps have a reasonable chance of working. However, anyone who knows his way around a computer knows that this is often a double edged sword. As I said, those compatibility layers and the stagnancy of the win32 API often add boat and are a headache for MS when changing or adding new stuff. Not to mention old DOS relics like drive letters. Or having to maintain two or more technologies at the same time.

Then there's Linux which is closer to the other end of the scale. Even the boated Linux distro's are far less boated than Windows. However, aany app that is older than the current stable release of Debian is a dice roll if it will work. Debian oldstable maybe... However, any app that is older than 5 years it very probably won't work. And for any app that is i.e. 20 year old, your only hope is to find an image of a supported distro that is also 20 year old and run it in a VM, and if you need dependencies, have luck finding online repository archives.

So guys, what is your stance on this?
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Those girls have really cute faces, do you have an image where their bodies are not fuarrrked up?


>neurosuggesting there is anything wrong with their bodies.

No this is the original.

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No.35817 [Reply]

VNC has a reputation for being very slow and choppy in drawing it's graphics.

Why is that so?
How and why is RDP better at doing this?


VNC is dumb, it is basically a video stream with pointer/keyboard emulation.
RDP is smart, it sends on-screen text as text, windows and their elements not as pixels but as information on their position/color/orientation/content/etc and only sends relatively huge images/video when other, more efficient approaches, fail.

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No.35891 [Reply]

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retroshare://channel?name=JSTOR%20Files:%20In%20memory%20of%20Aaron 20Swartz&id=d476279eb9ffa11906f8562052472f21&msgid=2e5666402f9fad7df2091f7dfca2fb99


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No.36041 [Reply]

alright lainons, I want to build myself something like the Enigmabox (https://en.enigmabox.net/) but for less than $300 with the possibility of adding antennas so i can mesh multiple together so me and my 2 neighbors can communicate without paying comcast. Can you help me make this happen?
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like so? i don't know if those are the parameters for what you are working with


The BGP & OSPF protocols are IETF standards, like TCP/IP. There are both closed and open source implementations of those standards.

For example the *nix routing software Quagga is open source, and implements both BGP and OSPF, as well as other routing protocols. Another open source routing software is Bird.

Going further, VyOS is an open source network operating system based on Linux, and uses Quagga as its routing engine. DD-WRT, a Linux-based network operating system for embedded devices, uses both Quagga and Bird depending on the build.

The routing protocols I mentioned are are just for basic Layer 3 (IP) connectivity. You'd want to use a higher order application to encrypt your traffic over the network. I suggested IPsec or OpenVPN as these are the most commonly used VPN applications in network operating systems.

This is all assuming that you want to build your own wireless mesh network, and not just encrypt your communications over existing ISP networks.

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No.36047 [Reply]

New thread, can't reply to the old one anymore:

>my monday to friday station while I'm away from home to study

the lighting looks much warmer in truth, my phone's camera isn't very accurate


What's the pad for? Are you drawing or Osu!?


I'm drawing, but I'm not used to a tablet so nothing but soykaf comes out. I'm just starting out trying digital drawing / painting, got the tablet from my girlfriend who's an illustrator, as a hand down (she got a bigger one).

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No.36072 [Reply]

I'm kinda wondering about docker in a prod env right now

I want to give all my docker containers public IPv6 addresses and say fuarrrk ipv4 all together, and host a soykafton of services off a single debian machine (possibly a cluster in the future)

any docker enthusiasts wanna give me some reading materials/advice?
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>host a soykafton of services off a single debian machine
This is exactly what I'm using docker for. I selfhost alotta webservices like Nextcloud, Searx, Rocketchat and a couple databases. Using Nginx I then reverse proxy the containers virtual IP to a subdomain for which I also generate a LE certificate. It's super comfy. I couldn't really imagine doing all this without docker.

Using docker really helped me keep my Debian VPS clean. One thing I'm not sure of is the performance impact. If there was one, I didn't really notice it, though that might just be because my VPS has plenty of memory and cores. Overall Docker is a great tool.


Does it provide enough isolation that I can give my sister access to a container and not worry about her fuarrrking things up while she learns Linux

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No.36078 [Reply]

what do lainons think of scuttlebot?
"Scuttlebot is an open source peer-to-peer log store used as a database, identity provider, and messaging system. It has:

>Global replication

>End-to-end encryption

Scuttlebot behaves just like a Kappa Architecture DB. In the background, it syncs with known peers. Peers do not have to be trusted, and can share logs and files on behalf of other peers, as each log is an unforgeable append-only message feed. This means Scuttlebots comprise a global gossip-protocol mesh without any host dependencies."


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No.36090 [Reply]

Do any other lains suffer from RSI whether it be mild or severe?

I've been wearing this (http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/734399P/acetm-brand-deluxe-wrist-brace-adjustable-left-wrist.jpg) by day and this (http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/734418P/acetm-brand-night-wrist-sleep-support-adjustable.jpg) by night and it seems to be helping a lot, but I've heard that it isn't wise to wear a wrist brace all the time as it can actually cause the muscles to weaken and atrophy.

I tried only wearing the night brace at night or when resting, but after a few days of this I will inevitably start to get sharp pains in my right wrist again.

What is a lain to do? Sure, there are a bunch of recommendations out there, but none of it seems to be based on any empirical evidence or medical science. I wonder if anyone has had any actual success with a particular exercise or other strategy.

Don't tell me to get off the computer.
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Thanks. Somehow it doesn't surprise me that this is a common problem for lains.


Ascend as an AI. There will be no more pain.

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No.36092 [Reply]

Are smartwatches useful at all? Do these things have decent ganoo/loonix distributions? Are there any of these things with a physical keyboard instead of touchscreen bullsoykaf or a keypad? Normally I'm the kind of person who would avoid technology that is inspired by and is supplementary to autism rectangles, but I can't deny that I would really love an IRL COMP.
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I have one and to be honest this is pretty much the only thing they do.

If you want a real life COMP ala Shin Megami Tensei, your best bet would be to go for a micro computer + lcd screen + keyboard and some case for all that stuff. I've been planing to do something like that with my raspberry pi but I'll wait till i have some more money


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I think would be cool to talk to my wrist just like a movie secret agent. Besides that, the ability of changing watchface is a very good feature in comparison to regular watches. But I think it is still not worth it.

Well, for that you could just buy a smartband. It's a lot cheaper and has a much better battery life.

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No.36119 [Reply]

VPN /thread
ISP's have always had use by the balls, now they are selling our balls up the river, unsurprisingly.
What vpn do you use? What others have you tried?


There is already a VPN thread in /sec/, please check there.


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Thanks lain.
Obviously this thread is unnecessary now but I will try to rebrand this turd.


The idea is use a TV antenna to receive almost any rf signal in the air. Include live satillete data, police comms, etc.
My interest is using it for tracking weather balloons that transmit at the designated 400-406mhz and 1675-1700mhz.

Any lains played around with one?
Here's to new beginnings.

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No.36151 [Reply]

Android is now the world's most popular OS.
>Figures concerning desktop, laptop, tablet, and mobile usage combined show that Android is now powering no less than 37.93 percent of the devices connected to the Internet, while Windows fell to the second place with 37.91 percent.

When will this fuarrrking nightmare end? I used to have hope for the future of computers and the internet, but now it's all turning to locked down, stripped down, dumbed down, mobile soykaf. I can't even do online banking on my computer anymore without getting a soykafty mobile styled website that pointlessly moved options that used to be on the same screen into various submenus and doesn't even allow me to correct the amount of money I want to transfer without deleting the whole field and reentering it. It feels like we're entering a bizarre inverted version of what it was like trying to use a mobile device on the web in the mid 2000s.
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>I can't even do online banking on my computer anymore without getting a soykafty mobile styled website that pointlessly moved options that used to be on the same screen into various submenu
It used to be so that the mobile variants of such sites were javascript'less and very minimal and thus were easily used by simple browsers. It seems that these mobile web 'devs' are now confident that all mobile devices are fast enough to process full 'web 2.0', which are very heavy in javasript, but competely neutered like you wrote.

Oh yeah, any 'modernization', even if it's 100% negative, is good.
I'll wait with horror the day when sysops have same tech 'knowledge' than your typical computer & internet user today, because that day will come.



There are dozens of objective ways to measure design. And people that actually sudied IT design and/or Human computer interaction, instead of just fiddled with photoshop know them.

Here is my favourite: https://www.cs.umd.edu/class/fall2002/cmsc838s/tichi/printer/goms.html

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No.36164 [Reply]

I currently have 2 computers and one android phone (planning on buying another laptop or RPi). How can I modify the three to work on the processes running on my primary computer? For the sake of the argument, lets assume that I am creating a 200GiB encrypted container. How can the architectural difference between ARM and AMD-64 be handled while I am creating this container?
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If you want to learn about hardware pralellisation, learning about old school beowulf clusters may just be what you need.


I'm not sure how your example could work, generally you need specialized software for distributed computing. If you have actual problems that would benefit from a distributed architecture, I recommend writing programs for them with MPI and managing your nodes and tasks using Slurm.

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No.36174 [Reply]

How do you guys feel about FOSH?
Are there any open hardware projects you like, support or take part in?

I've really been interested in open hardware since the last CIA leak and will like to have a secure machine but I know it won't let me do much stuff, at least it will be an excuse to tinker with a retro computer.
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So ideally in the future they will use a different CPU?


So the fosh projects I've seen seem very elaborated and will not carry a very painful migration.
So the vision I had of using an 8bit computer will have to be moved somewhere else.

I found the mega65 but it hasn't come out yet so dunno what to think.

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No.36193 [Reply]

I've recently come to learn about entities and relationships in the tech world that scare me. Namely, tech incubators & innovation centres that, on the one hand, outwardly showcase technology that is seemingly wonderful, but potentially dystopian - either intentionally, or more likely, easily co-opted as a side benefit of the implementation of this technology.

I wanted to name a number of these entities, and seek Lain's collective intelligence on more, as well as soliciting Lain's take on where we go from here. I will also preface the meat of this post by saying that not only am I not extremely knowledgeable in the tech field, nor necessarily the philosophical implications (which I am trying to combat with a good diet of information, as well as science fiction), I'm also slightly drunk. Apologies for any disconnected dots, I feel compelled to share and ellicit discussion to get a more knowledgeable take on things.

The canvas for many of these entities is the intersection between Silicon Valley - as the primary driver of technical innovation, if not the manufacturer - and the United States government, as well as all connected parties on either end. These include funding from governmental entities such as the DOD (i.e, DARPA) and CIA; if anyone can suggest resources for further research in this area, I'd be much obliged.
To a lesser degree, this also includes the interplay of corporate entities, both within and outside of Silicon Valley. This alludes to the largely kleptocratic nature of the United States government, and the resultant legislation - or positions of power - that are awarded.

Here are a few entities that I have come across in my research that seem potentially problematic to me, outside of a more comprehensive picture on the other, more far-reaching dangers presented many of the parent entities of those listed below.

> In-Q-Tel

In-Q-Tel is a CIA funded company that provides capital to a number of companies. Most noteably, they provided the cash that helped Palantir get off the ground after some roadbumps. Here is a list of companies they have provided venture capital to:
This is problematic if viewed in light of the history of the CIA, their recently revealed (but generally speculated) uses of domestic individual's tech to subjugate their freedom & privacy, and their history of manipulation of the American media & populous for the ends of the state (look into "The Mighty Wurlitzer" for a history of this; The Devil's Chessboard and Ghost Wars are also good histories of the CIA; and Vault 7 goes without saying here.)

>Google ATAP:

There's very little information about what Google's Advanced Technology and Projects group is working on in full. Their website and general media presence is very friendly, although they do label themselves as a skunkworks agency - which is shorthand for a program based on Lockheed-Martin Advanced Development Programs entitity: a small, generally shadowy group of individuals working on radical innovation. What they list on their website seems benign, and radical, useful tech. However, some of their other projects have a vast potential to be easily weaponized against their users - ie Abacus, which is using biometrics data (including digital forensics, i.e., identifying you by how you by writing style) to identify a user, or the "authentication vitamin" RFID chip developed by (Google owned) Motorola. Google ATAP was headed by Regina Dugan, who was the DARPA director beforehand, and who left ATAP to start the project below.


>>36193 con't
>Building 8
Dugan leads this project at Facebook. Little is known outside of this group as to the projects that this group is working on, but some tech that they have revealed they are exploring and developing are: augmented reality, cameras, and most interestingly, some sort of brain-computer interface, involving neuroimaging and haptic feedback. A look at a Facebook page for Building 8 states that the project is purpourtedly an ambitious undertaking in Facebook's desire to "connect the world."

Those are the big three I wanted to share. There are many hoorable mentions.

>Minerva Institute

(the namesake of which is proportional to your fondness of tinfoil), which is a DOD funded research instituion interested in "...improv[ing the] DOD's basic understanding of the social, cultural, behavioral, and political forces that shape regions of the world of strategic importance to the U.S." The person who cowrote the study wherein Facebook specifically attempted to manipulate the moods of a subset of users by selectively managing their content, Jeffery Hancock, is one of the paid members of this institution. While the aforementioned study is not known to be part of his work at MI, his area of focus is on "psychological and interpersonal dynamics of social media, deception, and language"; the study was funded by Cornell to develop an empircal model "of the dynamics of social movement mobilization and contagion."
>DARPA themselves, and the similar NSA offshoot ARDA (Advanced Research & Development Activity)
>NSA, of course
It should go without saying that NSA is highly reliant on the privacy users sacrifice to many Silicon Valley companies for monitoring, generally passive, ie Google's PREF IP cookies. This is, of course, in addition to it's own capabilities
>Institutions within and proximal to military-industrial complex: defence contractors, paramilitary organizations, military-based tech companies; eg Halliburton, Lockheed-Martin, Booz-Allen, Boston Dynamics, Blackwater & other defence contractors [MGS4 when?]

I could definitely go on, but this moves further into the military side of things and away from the original direction of this post.

I don't really have a single cohesive point that I'm trying to make here; I probably will on the other side of sobriety, as I'm still trying to parsing the deluge of the information, let alone the implications, large and small.

More than anything, this was just a dump of some of the things I've learned about recently, with a request for similiar leads, as well as any perspectives anyone may have on topics such as: interplay of (deep) state and tech, potentially dystopian developments in the world of tech, any philosophical implications thereof, etc.

Pic related, the book scared me many years ago when I was far less tech literate; seeing the trailer for the movie prompted this post.

[Apologies for mispellings, I don't have a decent spellcheck on this computer and it's taking forever through the VPN. Also, please feel free to make any corrections or request sources.)


...um, okay. I'm not sure what your point here is, other than Google and Facebook have R&D programs to support future innovations that would benefit them and that the CIA funds projects, which surprises nobody. I also really don't see where the deep state accusations that you're making come from.

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No.36206 [Reply]

I'm not sure if I am posting in the right board, but it didn't feel quite right posting in /lam/, /sci/, or /tech/.

My objective is clear enough; I want to use a live Linux CD or flashdrive to boot a computer and visualize the computer's hard drive into a single .vdi file that Virtualbox can boot. How can this be done?

I have already seen this-
-but this is not exactly what I want though. I do not want to take a raw image and then convert it to a bootable .vdi. I want to directly convert the hard drive straight to a .vdi in one step.

Granted, its easy enough to just image the hard drive, but again, I want to make a .vdi virtual hard drive from a physical hard drive. I'm not against paid software that does this (I think vmware does, not sure) but I want to use GNU and freeware first if any exist that does what I want.
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if you booted a live USB and installed virtualbox on it, passed through your linux installs block device with VirtIO, created and mounted a VDI. you should at that point be able to use gparted in a VM to just copy over your partitions.

a bit janky but it should work


it almost sounds like you want a hypervisor but i could be completely wrong

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No.36220 [Reply]

This is worthy of it's own thread IMO.

Basically a big paradigm shift a Ubuntu is happening.

I only regret that the phones are dead. Personally I blame mir for that. Had they used wayland the phones might have just barely been alive.

On the other hand I also wish they switched to KDE instead. Or i3wm :P
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The mac like menu bar. I wish I could stick it to the sides. And the padding and the headerbars. Ofc. you can change it, but being customizable is not an excuse for soykafty defaults.

And if I customized it that heavily I might just switch to KDE, because the end result would be KDE anyways.

Now i3 also has that horizontal status bar, but it is tolerable as it's really small and doesn't offend with an abundance of padding and headerbars. Some software like gedit stil brings the headerbars but that is the app developers faults. And unlike gnome i3 only has one horizontal menu bar, whereas gnome also has that thing sitting at the bottom.


Budgie Remix is the most comfy flavor of Ubuntu imo, they should have considered making the switch to Budgie.

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No.36233 [Reply]

someone wanna help me setup a site on my server so people can browse matrix rooms?

regardless, https://Matrix.org general
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Can't get encryption working with weechat.
Looks cool man.
It's not really maintained anymore and doesn't have encryption.


What would this entail? Creating a HTML page with a list of matrix rooms, their topics and maybe a description? Doesn't sound bad on the frontend nor the backend, just setup a nginx instance and you should be good to go. You could even get a https cert with letsencrypt if you want.

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No.36244 [Reply]

From searx.me:

>The searx.me server is reaching its limits.

>Searx is no commercial enterprise, it lacks all the resources available to the services you normally visit, we don't have neither a marketing department, nor do we have datacenters, nor devops teams.

So, I thought about setting up our own (imageboard users, mainly endchan and lainchan) instance. If you guys help me find a openbsd server (VPS or dedicated) I could do it. The server would use obsd httpd(8), have no logs, have a hidden service and (maybe) a clearnet link (with TLS provided by Let's Encrypt). No javascript or cookies too, and no google crawling.
Anyone here interested? If you know any good host (outside of the US, Canada, China, Russia and UK) that has the last stable branch of openbsd running and where I can have root without limitation, at a good price (<$30) we could plan it.

ps. no, I don't want to use any other system. If you want to do it by yourself, go ahead.


You can use https://searx.laquadrature.net
It is hosted by La Quadrature du Net, and as Wikipedia points out: it "is a French advocacy group that promotes digital rights and freedoms of citizens. It advocates for French and European legislation to respect the founding principles of the Internet, most notably the free circulation of knowledge. La Quadrature du Net engages in public-policy debates concerning, for instance, freedom of speech, copyright, regulation of telecommunications and online privacy."
As far as I'm concerned I have used it for the last year over searx.me, for the reason that I personally would trust this organization over whoever hosts searx.me...


I'm all for it, but I could only provide financial assistance, as I don't know any good hosting services.

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No.49 [Reply]

Hi Lains
I've been using Android since it's inception more or less (my first smartphone was a HTC Magic 32a with Android 1.5) and I absolutely love it. Even when it was the less optimized worst fuarrrking piece of soykaf OS ever made.

Anyway, I bought a new phone a month ago and I decided that I'm totally fed up with Google's bullsoykaf, but I've been literally used the same Google based stuff during the last 8-9 years.

What are some good replacements apps to go full no gapps with my phone? It's rooted and I'm waiting for the weekend to flash a custom ROM but I'm really afraid of losing functionality by deciding not to flash gapps.
What I use the most is:
>maps (no idea what to replace it with)
>drive (was thinking of replacing it with Mega)
>Gmail (I need it because of my work, I guess I'll have to read the work emails from the mobile website)
Is there anything else I should consider? Is there somewhere i can read about this stuff or something?
And more importantly, are there any good replacements for maps and the localization services?

Also please acknowledge my clever animu reference
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Use OTR.


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No.75 [Reply]

No /tech/ yet, but let's do it.

Thinkpad General thread, post em', discuss, ask questions, and find your new /comfy/ Thinkpad.

If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).

Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable

Used ThinkPad buyers guide:

xsauc buyers guide:
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just saw these.

i'm running Arch on this thing, but for the brief interlude where i tried out win 7, it still got terribly hot.

there's no overclocking going on, the fan is 100% operation as far as the bios can tell. However, when I received the computer I was not able to boot it due to the fan not being able to start. research seemed to indicate that this was a fairly common problem with older machines that hadn't been maintained, and moving the fan manually with compressed air resulted in the fan running - without much visual indication of heavy dust.

there are definitely some benign issues during my init that are BIOS related; guess now's the time to get around to fixing them. I'll take another look at the BIOS and see if anything might be causing it.

but my concern is that it most likely is due to dust accumulation, or some small hardware issue. i'm wary of taking this thing apart, though - i've heard repeatedly that it's an easy process, but it's definitely more complicated than every other laptop i've taken apart, and i love this thing so much that I'm afraid to mess it up. i guess i'll just have to suck it up and gitgud, should i need to take it apart.


my x220 barley starts spinning up it's fans and i'm running windows 10, so maybe you have a look at the x-series?

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No.81 [Reply]

Old one is gone with /tech/.

You know what to do.
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delightfully minimal.
i would be interested in seeing your .vimrc - i'll go ahead and make a dotfiles thread tomorrow if someone doesn't do it in the meantime.