This thread has been brought up so many times, that i don't see the point of repeating it another time. Anyway, my main browser is IceCat, a FF fork without any telemetry, and other bullsoykaf Mozilla tends to incorporate in new FF versions, it's of course compatible with extensions written for Firefox, and is configured with security in mind by default (i.e. no auto link prefetching, stricter TLS rules, etc.) Works great with uBlock, uMatrix, HTTPS Everywhere, Overbite and DownThemAll. As secondary browser, i also have K-Meleon. That's it basically.
Just updated Pale Moon and realised all my essential extensions no longer work and will never work again, most importantly Random Agent Spoofer. Switching to firefox/icecat. If someone can suggest something better for privacy which can deal with fingerprinting and has something like noscript then please let me know. I thought of TBB without TOR (too slow and irritating for daily use) but that probably defeats the purpose of having a commonly used browser since TBB without TOR will be a rare thing
>>32723 Iridium is a chromium fork that basically removes everything that could talk to google, and sends you an alert for all the requests it couldn't block. I'm using it right now, it's just as fast as chrome. Pretty happy with it
>>32761 If I remember correctly SeaMonkey doesn't have complete compatibility to Firefox's library of addons. In face if I am not mistaken they have to use their own repository, of which many of my favorites are missing.
Has that changed?
Also there are issues with the version of Firefox it is based on but that's not a terribly huge deal for me as I usually lock my computer down pretty tight security-wise.
>>32817 Indeed. My bad. Seamonkey is based in Mozilla however and is likely to have the same security issues as Firefox so I'm not entirely wrong security-wise. >weird addons Well Random Agent Spoofer was one of the few I checked. If that's a "weird" addon to you I don't really know what to say. I will check the website but to be quite honest the whole "all-in-one" trope Seamonkey is trying to pull off is extremely off putting.
It does appear to have a much smaller memory footprint however which is nice. Not switch worthy but certainly a huge plus.
>>32986 Well, maybe I became more demanding during the last few years but I feel like a program shouldn't take multiple seconds just to load on an i5-4460 running at 3.20GHz with an SSD. I feel like there's a slight delay (~0.5s) when I switch tabs, generating hints has become horrendously slow, the command bar can get sluggish (especially on my laptop which has an i5200U). Even reloading a tab open on a local file is slow. I'd almost be willing to try to fix the performance issues but since Mozilla is going to kill xul addons I feel like it'd be a waste of time since I'd definitively have to switch to something else.
>>33053 brave is pretty much chrome but with adblocking and script blocking https everywhere and fingerprint blocking extension installed by default its quite nice. also when i open links on my twitter app it opens them with the brave ad blocking
Seamonkey, because it syncs with my firefox account, runs my firefox plugins, and because it uses less memory than firefox and crashes less often than surf. With 1GB of memory and no swap, many browsers hit the memory wall and crash.
>>32723 I use Firefox for desktop and mobile. I think people often forget that Chrome is closed source. Why use a closed source browser from a for-profit corporation when there is a better open source browser from a non-profit?
>>33157 Iceweasel is dead. It was an almost-vanilla fork of Firefox Debian created because of Mozilla's license which doesn't allow anyone to distribute a binary named Firefox if its source code doesn't 100% match the one found in mozilla's repos. So they simply decided to rename it Iceweasel and be done with it. Debian recently decided to drop the Iceweasel branding because almost every distro distributes Firefox and Mozilla's ok with it. Icecat is a GNU fork of Firefox. It contains a few tweaks and is shipped with a few default addons such as LibreJS, Https-Everywhere and SpyBlock. Mozilla definitely wouldn't be ok with GNU naming this fork "Firefox".
Basically, >Firefox is absolute soykaf these days >wouldn't touch Chrome except maybe in a VM >Chromium was really really nice, but then I realized it doesn't really respect my privacy either. >Opera? lol nope >Midori is straight-up unfinished It's pretty much the only good HTML5 compliant browser these days, and I've found that it does everything I need
>>32754 I have a feeling the last Palemoon update made it really slow and buggy, sometimes I get awful load times and CPU use, specially when opening certain websites (4chan included, oddly enough), I've been using it with a ton of privacy plugins for almost 2 years and now I'm thinking about switching to something else too, maybe Icecat, I tried Seamonkey but I can't get over it's weird UI and not having a privacy mode
IceCat is the new, better Firefox to me. Its Windows port works very fine too, and most if not all FF addons are compatible with it. I can't really see a reason to use anything else these days (K-Meleon would have been an interesting pick too, but it lacks support for addons). Browsing the web with uMatrix, uBlock Origin, HTTPS Everyhwere, DownThemAll, Overbite, and some other addons can be really pleasant experience again.
>>33067 I'm trying out brave on desktop and mobile, so far it's decently cozy for me, my main is usually firefox with some moderate privacy addons and ublock. Is there a consensus on how secure/private Brave is right now in the tinfoil hat circles? I like a lot of the ideas they're proposing, but I have yet to hear anything but mild praise for it. The only downside I'm aware of so far is the dearth of addons.
>>34738 "Recent" like in a year ago. The latest change on addons was them adding support full Firefox Jetpack/SDK support. Plus there is also an extension for those lazy enough to bother changing a few lines in the .xpi file. You just can't expect to use always the latest version of each addon when most of the changes have been to keep up with Firefox's-becoming-Chrome race. Plus there is also the issue of many Firefox addon developers drooping off the scene due to Mozilla's retardedness.
>>34726 Pale moon as well. Its unfortunate I loved firefox for all those years, but it just runs so poorly for me now. Pale moon seems to be well optimized and its still getting development and love. I tried using polarity for awhile before this. And it has some very nice features out of the box for sure. But it started getting worse as it got updated more.
Polarity is one of those browsers almost no one is using. I'd love to see it deliver on its promise, but I doubt it ever really will. Something about those multi engine web browsers really seems neat, but I don't think its quite a fully viable approach.