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have any of you had experience potentiating your dreams, intentionally or otherwise?

i know there are supplements/herbs that purportedly have this effect. the two that i've predominantly heard of are calea zacatechichi and mugwort.

the former has never worked for me, would be interested in hearing lainon's opinions.

but i used to forage the latter all the time, and can attest that it works like a charm. the diuretic effect of the plant also makes it a wonderful tool for those attempting to lucid dream.
i personally haven't had effects from a dream pillow (ie, using the aromatics of mugwort to induce dreaming), although my partner at the time (an already extremely intense dreamer) reported it gave her nightmares. i've had plenty of positive experience from the tea, as well as smoking it.
mugwort also tastes and smells amazing, it's very minty. it adds a menthol vibe when rolled in a cigarette, and the pillows smell nice. tea is definitely the best way to go though.

honorable mention: chantix. it's an anti-smoking medication. after i take it for a few days, i begin to have very, very intense dreams. it is by far the most potent dream affector i know. the dreams are normally very long, and my presence there is very close to lucidity. it frequently causes long chains of dreams bound by threads, which are sometimes picked up and resumed a few dreams down the chain.

outside of lucid dreaming, also wonder if anyone has other suggestions for increasing the frequency or awareness of their dreams.


I read about Artemisia absinthium and stramonium to be used to dream, artemisia to be smoked or drank as tea, stramonium does good with just one seed


figured that would be wormwood by looking at the name. was not wrong.

fyi, (the most common/non-localized variation of) mugwart is artemisia vulgaris.

makes me wonder if there's more plants in the artemisia family that have this effect. i also have some proper absinthe laying around, would be interesting to see if thujone has any effect on dreams (though i'm sure the thujone/alcohol ratio is probably enough to potentially negate any dream-affect from the thujone.)


interesting. i've heard of its use in shamanic rituals as a tool for invoking visions (among other psychomagical effects,) but mostly its association to me is as a deliriant, generally used by people without access to drugs who don't necessarily know what they're getting into. (or are intentionally seeking delirium, like i was when i experimented regularly with diphenhydramine a decade ago.) doing some quick research returns plenty of anecdotal accounts vouching for it. interesting. if anyone any experience with this plant first hand, i'd be very interested in hearing about it.


Certain drugs/withdrawals will give you weird dreams. Cheese too. I really don't recommend getting into drugs but they have given me some intense and vivid dreams. However you are most likely to wake up, remember them, then fall asleep in 30 seconds then forget it.

The list of things that do this are long. SSRI withdrawal may lead you to have intense dreams, GABAergic drugs, at certain times during periods alcohol use, anti-psychotics (believe it or not they can really mess with your dreams despite possibly helping with audio/visual hallucinations)


I once made tea from catnip that I had lying around, and also smoked a hefty amount of it that night. I had very vivid dreams that I remembered quite clearly the next morning. Usually I have trouble remembering dreams or only remember a small portion of one.

Another thing that I have unintentionally done, or at least not consciously chosen to do, Is set my alarm earlier than I normally wake, and then snooze it and go right back to sleep. Sometimes this leads to multiple dreams that are easily remembered, but more often than not I forget them all except maybe the last one.

also I have found that the period of "withdrawal" from regular weed smoking has left me with some incredibly intense dreams


- Melatonin (300mcg)
- Choline precursors: Alpha-GPC or CDP-choline
- Nicotine receptor agonist: nicotine
- Muscaric receptor agonist: amanita muscaria (muscimol)
- Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor: Galantamine or Huperzine A.
- Choline flux accelerators: racetams in general (piracetam, phenylpiracetam, etc.)
- Brain waves: l-theanine (200-800mg), a glutamate agonist, put you in alpha brain waves. It may help you get closer to the dream wave (theta). Also, "dream machines" (photic and binaural sounds stimulation) might help (check "frequency following response")
- Polyphasic sleep. It seems to schedules of polyphasic help with dreams
- Catecholamines don't seem to help, they actually make sleep worse. So, try to avoid stimulants like caffeine. Although nicotine is a dopamine agonist, it seems to help because of nicotinic agonist effects
- Glutamate receptors: AMPA and NMDA doesn't seem to have a good effect on dreams. Although ibogaine seem to produce a dream-like effect
- Gaba modulators: doesn't, by itself, help on dream. But, if you're too anxious, some gaba agonists may help with sleep. There's some reports on zolpidem hallucinations
- Sigma and opioid: no correlation but, as with gaba, may help with anxiety. Maybe Oxicodone
- Canabinoid: Controversial, some people say cannabis make you dream more, some just don't have dreams while on it.
- Monoamine oxidase inhibitors: there's some reports on lucid dream using peganum harmala
- Brain stimulation: some people say that stimulation on some areas make you more lucid on dream. Check tDCS, CES and TMS (magnetic)
- Behavioral change: reality check and other techniques seem to help. Only anecdotal evidence
- Sensorial imput prior to sleep: some odors while doing things seem to increase the likelihood of remembering it. For example, if when you're studying something you really want to remember you smell some odor that is really peculiar and strong, and then smell it again prior sleep, it may increase the possibility of dream (only anecdotal reports on this). The hypothesis is that the smell system is directly interlinked with the amygdala and hypocampus, that are responsible for emotions/memory, respectively

The keyword you're looking is "oneirogenics". It's the word that characterize drugs that augment dreams. There's some books and articles if you search, but I think I did a good compilation here. I have some other notes, like the how intestinal bacteria (probiotics) might enhance it, or some nutrients (B-complex, Vit D, Vit B12) might also help, but it gets more technical and would be exhaustive.