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No.73

There is only so much information that we as humans can individually remember. This is fine, as the this limit is shockingly high and the human brain is amazing as it is. What my problem is is how much of this is rather wasted. Even if it adds to the very essence of my personality and who I am, there seems to be a lot of junk up there. It doesn't seem important to me to remember the latest Mcsoykaf commercial nor the phone number for a local lawyer, but this information persists in my memory jingles will be the death of us all. While there is also a lot of information from school that is more often than not useful to remember or just good to be knowlegdable about, there is still a good amount of other (what I subjectively term) crap. How do other lainanons feel about this?

  No.74

>>73
Most people don't know how to use their brains. It's not something we're really taught (I think it should be).
There are very good techniques for improving your use of memory, and I highly recommend trying to learn them.

One of the most important points is that we are much better at remembering things using multiple senses: vision, sound, smell, touch, emotion, etc.
Check out the mnemonic peg system as a good introduction, I will post some useful PDFs itt when I can find them again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_peg_system


To mods: should this thread be moved to /zzz/ now it's back?

  No.75

>>74
eager to learn more

pls post soon

  No.76

Its disturbing the amount of intrusive brands and products I can subconsciously recognise when I can't remember things that I am trying to learn. I am glint to try incorporating advertising techniques into my studies.

  No.77

side opinion on this topic and bit of my personal story:
did heavy research and studying on topic of memory (petabytes of brain memory, parallel way it stores that data in long term memory....blah blah). One day decided to make my own practice routine to enhance my memory.... and it worked to one point. My practice consisted simply of:
>revisiting what I did that day (as much as I can, from start to finish, details are bonuses)
>revisiting key moments of the week, month and year
>n-back (as much as I can go, until I feel without focus, even after the revisiting session)
>deep mindfulness meditation on breathing
>play a bit of the game "simon says" (the 4 color game) (max I did was 113)

Long story short, I fried my long term memory. Weeks of deep STRONG muscle cramping, eyes shut, every light hurts, 9 hours long HEADACHES I now have a HORRIBLE memory. Better than average, worse than what I had. Much much worse.
Still can score high on n-back and get much on simon says.
Could probably recall what I did today in great detail.
My long term memory is fried.
I get weird "flashes" of memory. For instance, I am talking to my gf and she says something that mildly annoys me or strikes me in small emotional way but I don't say anything (repress it). I forget it and recall it 6 months later out of blue in middle of conversation I get a strong emotional urge to talk about that small insignificant thing that happened ages ago.
This created a type of relationship where we were walking on eggshells at first, but now are much more upfront about all emotional stuff.

The hippocampus is also part of brain heavily controlled by emotion.
Be careful.

  No.78

agree completely. Try to write important things down and organize them into topics especially when it applies to technology

invariably I will forget a lot of it and some important things though

  No.79

>>76
Feynman technique
also, learn to use search engine

  No.80

>>77
While your story may or may not be true, it is plausible that this could happen. The brain itself does mold to what it is used for, the same as the rest of the body. As for not doing techniques to help you remember things, I think it is important to do "safe" ones, perhaps studied in depth by scientists and the like.

  No.81

>>80
>anonymous people having a reason to lie to other anonymous people
my point was picked up, by even you, so I will not try to push your idiot brain further into not believing everything you see online

  No.82

>>81
In my younger years I played Call of Duty for so long one day that I forgot how to open a kitchen drawer for a short period of time. So the environment you are in and the functions you perform do mold your brain, even if it is only stupid video games. As for whether you should believe me or not is trust which should be used cautiously.

  No.83

>>74
going along with this post, the memory palace (aka method of loci) is very cool. as a non-memory aside, i have used something like it before, but for creative purposes + strengthening of imaginative power, as opposed to memory purposes. i learned said technique - essentially creating an imagined mental room, and actively working on imagining it, so as to give yourself a range of freedom & agency in imagination, akin to lucid dreaming - from my brother, who uses it for both artistic and mnemonic purposes. i haven't explored the memory side, but he has demonstrated that he's able to use it to store an incredible amount of data. interestingly, this is generally abstract knowledge; his memory for actual life events is fairly soykaf.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci
>>77
the outcome was different than i was expecting; the methods sounded so promising. also, the namecalling is not very lainlike. let's all love.


i think society as a whole is increasingly outsourcing memory to various exocortices, and there's little than can be done to help that. i do believe that's inherently a bad thing, but at the same time, it seems to be an issue that is rectified as transhumanism develops further.

in terms of an individual approach to memory, i think - and i'm just speculating, since my memory is fairly shot due to lifelong unkindness to my brain - that the best that you can do is practice memory techniques.

i'm quite interested in the concept of a tulpa (not in a furry/-kin/tumblr way, but in the 'creation of sentience' sense), and attempted to create one. however, this did not go far for a few reasons. namely, i was doing so in an attempt to revive my dead father, and i realized that, in addition to this being a difficult muck of grief to transverse, i didn't know him well enough to really do so. (rip me)
i also chickened out, because as much as i would be absolutely fascinated by creating some sort of sentient entity that resided in whatever the hell consciousness is, i'm not sure i'm prepared to live with the effects.

i have heard - outside of tumblr attentionpostng - that creating a tulpa is a very possible thing. i've considered creating some sort of abstract mental representation that would map out to the actual scheme within my consciousness (ie, some sort of library or data center, with books or files representing mental data.) i envisioned some sort of subservient golem that would be an agent of my will there. i imagine creating a golem would be easy, but again, the fear of creating/partitioning sentience is a little too risky for my tastes.

  No.84

Some keywords for your search (later I get in depth on it, and the philosophy of memory, but I need to go for now):
>nootropics
cholinergic system, the LTP process and BDNF hormone (neurogenesis and synaptogenesis in general). The nootropics for cholinergic system: huperzine A, alpha-gpc, PRL-8-53, *racetams, nicotine, muscimol. For LTP, check nicotine. For BDNF, check NSI-189, Cererolysin, dihexa (no real effects on humans, it seems).

Stimulants seem to enhance working memory too, especially dextroamphetamine and modafinil.
>brain stimulation
check CES, tDCS and TMS (magnetic stimulation).
Check also photic and auditive stimulation, the "mind machine".
See neurofeedback.
>games
The cognitive training hypothesis seems to be fake.
But, dual n-back is the most used for working memory training.
Learn a new language seems to be good too, like Lojban or Ithkuil.
>mnemonics
I don't know if it really works. I've tried some, the most useful is the Loci method for me.

Anyway, your memory will be not better if you have a soykafty health. So, eat good (check Ketochow and or elemental liquid diets), do exercise (high intensity interval training on plyometrics) and, this is the most important: sleep well.
Get some melatonin (300-500mcg) if needed. Polyphasic sleep (biphasic) seem to do good for memory too (the the most radical ones, like workman or ubermanch). Get at least 7 hours of sleep.

I know I'm just going to the biology. I'll discuss later the cogscience and philosophy of it.

  No.85

>>84
>For BDNF, check NSI-189, Cererolysin, dihexa (no real effects on humans, it seems).
He could check out a chinese study showing how you could get BDNF in brain through rabies glycoprotein

  No.86

Hey mod, please move this thread to >>>/zzz/

  No.87

>>82
No, I'm pretty sure that was a stroke, not Call Of Duty.
You had a stroke. You should see a doctor.